Success is relative. It's the joy of earning something those Villa fans are experiencing right now after sticking through the hard times.
I was at a bar/pub to watch final day a few years back (I think Villa were relegated that year) and there was 1 guy wearing a Villa jersey. We had beers together and watched final day, was a good time.
I get the hate. And this isn’t the most ideal person/group to be owned by. But after all Mike Ashley has done I don’t really care. Will be fun to see the club with some ambition
an Arsenal podcast last week used the boiling frog analogy to describe what has happened to football and I thought it was very apt. turning it up a few more degrees with this.
Will you really enjoy winning a trophy knowing it was merely bought? If so, you should have just saved yourself the hassle and been a Chelsea or City fan a decade ago when you picked a team.
let the pillaging of players from the less fortunate clubs commence i only ask that you don’t take gwen
I can’t figure out if £350M is high, low, or fair price. FSG bought Liverpool supposedly for £265m in 2011 and Mansour paid £210 in 2008, both before the latest tv rights deal.
Is this really the argument you want to make when we started an equal number of youth products when we played each other last?
If it’s the rumored 350m then that’s a steal for a big club with an established supporter base in one of the best home stadium environments
He tried to buy Liverpool for 2 billion last year so it's probably fair. But the value is going to increase significantly quickly for the reasons Wu mentioned.
Are you going to really try and argue that Newcastle United fans don’t deserve an owner who gives a shit like they do?
It seems low to me based on the size of the fan base, the stadium, and that it’s the only big club in the region. Yes offense, #Sunderland
Yeah, you deserve an owner that actually appreciates the club and does it the right way. Maybe he will do it the right way. But if he acts like Man City, I feel sorry for the Newcastle fans knowing your success under this ownership will be hollow knowing there was nothing about your proud club that contributed to the success.
Acting like Man City meaning he spends money? What are you getting at? Just because City used to be crap and got new owners doesn’t mean any club owned by a Middle Eastern family/group does it the “wrong way”
Also, the answer to this was one. How does that even come close to supporting your argument? You started one home grown player, with all of zero more on the bench. Right way?
Yes if you go out and violate the intent of the FFP like Man City, you are certainly doing it the wrong way.
I don't go as far as Watson but Liverpool are a team built on the revenue the club creates, they aren't a play thing for fucked up oil states. Legitimizing these terrible people is gross.
Maybe you should clarify what you're trying to argue? That's going to be the case for almost all of the premier league.
That's what really gets me with users like Tobias who portrays himself as a born again liberal that's moved on from his conservative ways.
I mean, it seems like you continually bash City for buying their success, when as you just said, all of the Premier League does that. If your stance is strictly the FFP stuff, I wouldn't lump Newcastle/other clubs into the City category until they do it. Newcastle has done it the "right way" according to you, and look where that's taken the club.
This acquisition should produce a good True Geordie rant but unless they’re spending Scrooge McDuck money like Citeh then there shouldn’t be a FFP problem. Again, historic well supported big club
There is huge difference between what City has done than even what Chelsea did before any of those Man City fans started following the sport. All premier league clubs buy players, but there is only one that's running a Billion pound deficit over the last decade. Your posts have alluded to you hoping Newcastle pulls a Man City. That's why I'm asking if you really would enjoy winning that way? Like I've already said, I won't criticize Newcastle if your ownership does it in a sustainable way.
I have said I’m hoping for an owner that will invest in the club. Newcastle just this January finally spent 20mil on a player. They were the first club in England to spend above 16 on one, last PL team to spend 20+. The youth and training facilities needed updates 5 years ago. The club have been relegated twice and gone through a long list of muppets as the manager. I’m not saying break the rules and dump hundreds of millions into players. I’m wanting an owner that will use his worth to try and win on the field and not in the financial books(Mike Ashley).
do you not care where the money dumped in the club comes from? is that something you can just compartmentalize? honestly asking.
It matters, like I said I don't prefer it to be this type of group that bought the club. But that's out of my control isn't it? Am I just supposed to stop following Newcastle now?
Watson hasn't even been arguing about where the money comes from. It changes from City bought their success, to they're breaking the FFP/doing it the right way, to now it's an ethical thing. I said from the jump this isn't the preferred way. But if it's the way that Newcastle will get some money put into them for the point of on field success, I'll give it a chance.
Are you kidding me? I’ve been blasting them for their slave labor and human rights violations for years.
You have. And you've also talked a whole lot about them buying their success and breaking the FFP rules. And I was arguing today those two sides as it seems to be the key points you've hinted since this rumor popped up. I wasn't trying to look past it, I just didn't think that's the part you were discussing with/around me