Python Programming & other inferior programming languages thread

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  1. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Too expensive, I don't think my company would pay for it. Probably going to Gig City since I can drive to Chattanooga.
     
  2. colonelrascals

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    this plus Chris Mccord's talk moved me firmly over to the elixir camp.
     
  3. colonelrascals

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    Joe_Pesci are you willing to relocate for jerb?
     
  4. Walt Disney

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    Ayyyyyyy
     
  5. IowaHuskerFan3

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    if anyone is looking for work, I got you
     
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  6. Walt Disney

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    get me an elixir job at bleacherreport imo
     
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  7. IowaHuskerFan3

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    I deal with a lot of IT jobs out in SoCal, unfortunately not Bleacher Report
     
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  8. Joe_Pesci

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    Eventually sure. I'm close enough to being done with school that I figure I may as well just finish now
     
  9. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    There's several very remote friendly Elixir companies. Don't you live in the Atlanta area?
     
  10. Walt Disney

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    I can’t complain, get to write only in elixir and make healthcare apps

    Bleacher report just seems awesome, or Weedmaps

    Dockyard of course would be a cool move, since All the Phoenix broz work there
     
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  11. Walt Disney

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    I know rentapath is a big elix shop in Atlanta
     
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  12. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Was just there at the Elixir meetup that they host. PagerDuty is a fairly big Elixir shop that list opened an office here too.
     
  13. IowaHuskerFan3

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    Is anyone a Salesforce “developer” and looking to get paid?
     
  14. Where Eagles Dare

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    I hate Salesforce and their "low code" revolution

    This mainly stems from pulling data out do thier database
     
  15. Doc Louis

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    Do we get to include tableau and tableau server admin in that now?
     
  16. THF

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    Can someone help me with a dumb php question?
     
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  17. IowaHuskerFan3

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    I’m intrigued. I need a PHP/Drupal person. Also, how shitty is drupal?
     
  18. Joe_Pesci

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    Fwiw that was just me bitching about still paying to do challenging work like 3 years after you have been getting paid to do this stuff and have 50x the expertise
     
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  19. Joe_Pesci

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    Also .Net seems pretty awesome if you know enough to make sense of what the relevant MSDN pages are talking about, which can be a bit of a wildcard from my Xamarin experience last year. There were descriptions of core Xamarin stuff on MSDN that literally had a note saying something like "description to be added later"

    On that note MSDN actually seems pretty good for established stuff, which is surprising considering how much negative talk I see and hear about Microsoft on the developer side. Maybe it's just because I'm still a peon :idk:.
     
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  20. kentucky_dawg

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    If you're working on .NET core there will be documentation around anything you can imagine using. Some of the older stuff can be hit or miss, though.

    Also, a lot of the negative talk is probably people used to the old ways of Microsoft. They are really hitting it hard in the open source world now and seem to be doing a lot of the right things.
     
  21. Where Eagles Dare

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    Yup

    MS has done a massive 180
     
  22. THF

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    I always loved the .Net framework and languages.
     
  23. THF

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    My question is I am confused with Php. I am totally inexperienced with it.

    I have a website I am building and updating with Webstorm. It has a simple Php script. Webstorm says you can’t use it to build Php. However it’s all server side Executed. So why can’t I just upload the edited Php script to the server and let it run when it is called?
     
  24. Doc Louis

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    Long story short: Because they want to sell you phpstorm.
     
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    What they've done with azure has been very impressive
     
  26. Where Eagles Dare

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    Azure Data Studio is pretty tight. It's a lot cooler than SSMS and you can connect to pretty much everything
     
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    I missed this.
    I'm a Drupal/PHP guy.
    Drupal is misunderstood. It's a framework *to build* CMSs, not a CMS itself imo. Its shittiness depends entirely on the competency of the folks deploying it.
     
  28. Doc Louis

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    I feel like we were stuck on using SSIS too long for automating processes like data cube updates because it was what our contractors knew. It's refreshing getting to use stuff like alteryx a lot more now, albeit it's different from ETL
     
  29. IowaHuskerFan3

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    Can I move you to Orange County and pay you $70 an hour?
     
  30. Where Eagles Dare

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    :ohdear:

    That's what I use
     
  31. BellottiBold

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    Oh you meant it that way.
    No lol sorry

    Can't be that hard to find someone?
     
  32. TDCD

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    Anyone have any thoughts/experience looking for startup jobs?

    I just want to work with competent, motivated people.
     
  33. Where Eagles Dare

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    There are a couple startup job boards

    Angle list or something like that
     
  34. COVIDiskilingme79

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    What's the best way to learn python instead of staring at my work computer bored as fuck while my brain slowly melts out of my head? Are there any good online sites?
     
  35. glimmer

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    I would say learn JavaScript. Between Node.js and the different front end frameworks you can accomplish a lot. JS is interpreted too, so it's easy to start learning online without needing to install anything locally right away. I've probably got a lower opinion of Python than most, though.

    After some quick Juggsian research these all seem solid. I use the W3schools for reference all the time.

    https://javascript.info/

    https://www.learn-js.org/

    https://www.w3schools.com/js/
     
  36. glimmer

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    Anyone use Rust at all? Just picked it up for a hobby project and I'm digging learning a new low level language.
     
  37. leroi

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    tfw one of your co-workers deletes a bunch of important shit out of a live database you were using
     
  38. leroi

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    My startup experience was pretty awful. So bad that idk if I want to go into the details.

    My take-away is that the CEO is incredibly important. It should be an engineering type , not some sales and marketing bitch. Also get any promises of future compensation (like equity) in writing or else it's just lies.

    If you're one of the founders, equity can be a big part of your compensation, but for later employees equity is worth near-zero. Your annual salary is likely to be equivalent to your total compensation.

    So .. make sure you don't get fucked on salary. If you take the salary for a gov't job as a comparison, add +$10,000 for healthcare and +5% for the 401k you won't get, and +10-15% for the pension you won't get, and maybe another $5k-$10k for vacation time you might not get -- and then take that annual figure and convert it to per-hour on a 35-40 hr/wk basis, and then apply that hourly figure to 50-60 hours/wk to get the salary you'd need to ask to make it equivalent. Depending on the details, a $90k gov't job could easily equate to a $150k - $200k startup job, and that's not even attempting to put a dollar value on the lack of job security.
     
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  39. colonelrascals

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    Anyone looking for python jobs and is willing to relocate to Houston ping me. I need to hire people
     
  40. colonelrascals

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    Also Walt Disney I've turned into a full on elixir bro.

    OTP framework is so fucking brilliant, I don't think I could ever go back..

    .....I still write python everyday :feelsbadman:
     
  41. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    I'm helping my friend review a new book about building real-time systems with Phoenix Channels. It's going to be crazy to see how the Phoenix ecosystem and best practices change as LiveView matures.
     
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  42. colonelrascals

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    If you want to PM me a link to the book I'd love to purchase
     
  43. Walt Disney

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    Y’all should be at elixirconf right now tbh

    Hth
     
  44. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    I couldn't do it this year, but I'm going to Gig City Elixir in October.
     
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  45. Walt Disney

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    Feel like elixir has a strong future?

    I obviously love it and don’t want to ever switch
     
  46. colonelrascals

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  48. Guns

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    work at a start up, mostly ETL background, our ETL framework is written python and mostly code that in my day2day. What is this elixir you speak of?
     
  49. Doc Louis

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    The app sololearn has Python and Java, SQL, Swift, etc in it. Not sure how useful it is beyond learning very basics
     
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  50. Where Eagles Dare

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    GA Tech's cs1301 or something like that on Edx is really good. Intro to Computing in python or something.

    I did that and got a solid foundation. Now doing DataQuest.io and like it, but felt like I'd be a little lost starting that out of the gate