Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. Lyrtch

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    I'll be nice...ish

    What specific cases of language policing bother you enough to care about. Liberal versions since the right wing version clearly isn't that bad.

    Besides gender pronoun preferences because grow up
     
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  2. Tug

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    I’m really heated that I can’t say Merry Christmas without persecution.
     
  3. shawnoc

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    What speech policing are you talking about? You’re assuming (as fact) something that most of us have only heard about from right wing sources and I personally had just imagined were invented as foils or straw men.
    Do you know someone whose kids were taken away because of a snowman or do you just know people who were upset that they were called a racist when they posted one of the little mermaid memes?
     
  4. CaneKnight

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    When the fuck have leftists ever been a fan of that piece of shit? Where do you even get that idea from? The Guy sucks something serious
     
  5. sflnole

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    Gud, god fearin', kirsjens:

     
  6. shawnoc

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    I’m sure that there are leftists that like him. Assuming that the left is one homogenous block that loves him or that the left is one homogenous block that hates him both seem to be problematic.
     
  7. joe-

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    everyone’s favorite moron white supremacist is back

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  8. Whammy

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    Brooooo....when did I say right wing wasn’t bad.

    The things you define as right wing pc - rolling back legal protections, using capital for influence, etc...are mechanisms of government and politics that have been used for centuries. It’s not PC, it’s cold calculating politics that Dems are countering with nonsense.

    The Dems could use a dose of that (e.g., repealing the filibuster, court packing) instead on focusing on meaningless bullshit like pronouns, the white supremacist industrial complex, Colin Kaepernick which if I’m being honest are all rooted in innuendo and subjective perspective.

    Before anyone tells me “well it’s not meaningless to Trans people,” well guess what your insistence on roasting people 24/7 for not adhering to the script put someone in power who actually is a bad dude. Put someone in power who took away healthcare from millions.

    Does anyone else not see this? Feel like I’m taking crazy pills and screaming in to the void. FUCK
     
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  9. CaneKnight

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    Liberals like Maher not leftists. I think you’re confusing the two
     
  10. PeterGriffin

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    If you misidentify someone with a gendered pronoun and they correct you, you can either a) accept it's none of your fucking business and move on with your day or b) get offended about it like a snowflake.

    You're the one focusing on it and causing a fuss. Point to any single candidate's platform that has "correcting gendered pronouns" at all. You're being a tool.
     
  11. Whammy

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    A substantial portion of the country - I would surmise greater than 50%, would consider him very left
     
  12. Where Eagles Dare

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    That's because the right has zero influence on culture outside making the things like the 50s
     
  13. Whammy

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    The only correct approach is A and that didn’t stop Hillary Clinton’s campaign from being painted with the broader brush from guys like Sean McElwee. What the media/Twittersphere/talking heads focus on matters - not just campaign platforms.
     
  14. shawnoc

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    I definitely am.
    Liberals are one homogenous block that likes Maher.
    Leftists are one homogenous block that hates him.
    Got it now.
     
  15. Redav

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    People who voted for Donald Trump based on cultural grievances over actual policy are not voters you're going to win back. No democrat even ran on the things you're talking about.
     
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  16. Scblue

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    We live in a country of morons. Not sure that proves anything.
     
  17. duc15

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    The left is focusing on Colin Kaepernick?
     
  18. CaneKnight

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    A substantial portion of this country is borderline retarded and don’t even remotely understand what “the left” actually is. You seemingly fall into that category as well. So my point stands, leftists do not fuck with racist shitheads like bill Maher
     
  19. Lyrtch

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    what media are you consuming that you think "the left" focuses on Kaepernick?

    and yes, we should focus on the rise of white supremacy groups and the violence there in, especially when the President is one of them

    concrete examples of language policing would be nice, not just this Shapiro-esque take on the culture war online
     
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  20. Whammy

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    This is just simply not correct. Campaigns get painted with what the twitter/blogosphere/talking heads focus on. I assume that’s not controversial
     
  21. Lyrtch

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    this feels like Merica/Talking Head all over again
     
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  22. Redav

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    Again if you're voting based on dumb cultural grievances, you're never not going to vote R.
     
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  23. zeberdee

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    so because right-wing media outlets like to create boogeymen to rile up their base, that's the left's problem?
     
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  24. Barves2125

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    "The white supremacist industrial complex is meaningless bullshit" says southern white guy.

    :bamawarn::bamawarn:
     
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  25. PeterGriffin

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    This is so stupid, whammy. The right is focused on fomenting a culture war and you're falling for it.

    And I don't even know who McElwee is. I just did a full TMB forum search and the name McElwee has appeared once since the 2016 election, a passing mention in one article from 2017 that mentions him as a political scientist. I just checked, he has less than 93k followers on twitter. I know many dogs that have bigger followings. Not sure your point stands.
     
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  26. Whammy

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    Yes - you don’t give your opponents fodder. It’s politics.

    This has been my point the last page and a half
     
  27. Schadenfred

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    Demographics whereby no responsibility > responsibility:

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    As I've stated a few times here, ask any standard Americhristian what the main sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was and they'll certainly tell you that it was perverse sexuality in general if not homosexuality in specific. I've done this a number of times. The response is universal.

    And yet...

    - Ezekiel 16:49-50
     
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  28. Lyrtch

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    oh so this is very literally Mericas old argument

    you're in for a rough one if what you learn from the unifying factor of GOP support being misogyny and racial resentment is that the Dems should shed all anti-racism and pro equality support to not "give your opponents fodder"
     
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  29. Whammy

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    McElwee and Data for Progress are pretty influential...he’s tight with AOC and is one of the people who contributed to the Green New Deal platform.

    I can’t name every talking point of leftist, the bar is a bit high there guys
     
  30. jokewood

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    To be fair, I have been planning on voting for Colin Kaepernick as a write-in based on his pronoun platform.
     
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  31. duc15

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    They will turn anything into that though so playing into it is a losing game. It’s like how they call every dem candidate running for president a socialist. They are going to continue to say this stuff whether it’s true or not.
     
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  32. Whammy

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    How can you misrepresent my position this disengenously. Dems shouldn’t shed all anti-racism positions - good lord man. But this bleeding edge stuff does suck oxygen from the important matters does it not?

    Does it not allow bad actors to misrepresent the Dems?
     
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  33. Lyrtch

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    The bad actors will always get what they want, even if they have to create twitter accounts to provide it

    Now, what SPECIFIC language policing bothers you so much?
     
  34. Whammy

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    Ok guys - not getting anywhere I see. This has been informative, I do appreciate the engagement
     
  35. joe-

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    goodbye forever hopefully
     
  36. Whammy

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    You motherfucker how am I supposed to go do research and pull articles and make a posit with citations when your response to everyone one of my posts is a complete lie.

    I’ll be back
     
  37. Lyrtch

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    You haven't made your point clear except for largely broad allusions so people have had to guess where you're going.

    When you start there it's never going to end anywhere else.
    dude i just wanted what specific examples bother you so much that you decided to dive in to talk about, don't need citations or anything
     
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  38. NilesIrish

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    Old as hell, but just popped up in a RT



    I laughed.
     
  39. AptosDuck

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    No, the left is focused on hating America and disrespecting the troops

    The left needs to quit being anti-American and get back to tiptoeing around the easily-bruised pearlclutching rightwing sensibilities that Made This Country Great, because fodder
     
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  40. The Banks

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    Just because he’s left doesn’t mean lefties like him. He’s an anti-vaxing islamaphobe. He sucks
     
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  41. SenatorClayDavis

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    The white supremacist industrial complex chalked up another murder over the holidays.
     
  42. Upton^2

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    Why is elizabeth warren focusing all of her attention on defending Nike for dropping a shoe from production?!
     
  43. NCHusker

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    Honestly I don't know what Whammy wants from the Democrats.
     
  44. joe-

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    the same thing that saul wants

    it's amazing how similar these people sound
     
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  45. PeterGriffin

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    Data for Progress, 37k twitter followers. I would guess that the Venn diagram for the overlap between McElwee and DataProgress is ~95%. Altogether 100k people, give or take (trying to get that overlap now, will edit if I ever get it to shit out the data). A cobra in the Bronx zoo has a novelty twitter account with 50% more than that.

    No one gives a fuck about McElwee and you can't point to a single presidential Dem candidate running on culture war ideologies. Conversely, it would be nice to find one Republican candidate who hasn't run on culture war. You're falling for it.
     
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  47. NilesIrish

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    The 13 colony flag has been adopted by racists, she is right to defend Nike for dropping it.

    It should not have been made in the first place.
     
  48. AHebrewToo

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    Individual takes action (Kaep kneels, trans person explicitly indicates their pronouns).

    Mainstream Conservative Media denegrate the individual and their action.

    Reasonable people that respect the liberty of individuals defend the action of the individual.

    So unless we remain silent and don't show support for these individuals, we're responsible for alienating a bunch of assholes causing them to vote for Donald Trump?

    Is that an accurate summary of your position?
     
  49. Upton^2

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    No you missed my point. I don’t think she had anything to say about the matter. Whammy is proposing the left is obsessed with PC, which is simply not the case.
     
  50. NilesIrish

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    I did, my bad. been cruising through posts while I take a break from painting.
     
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