Detroit Red Wings: Priority Waste - Our Sponsor and Our Defense Core

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  1. DeToxRox

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  3. DeToxRox

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    My current guess, assuming no further moves

    Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha
    AA - Filppula - Hirose
    Helm - Nielsen - Zadina
    Abdelkader - Glendening - Ehn

    de la Rose, Turgeron

    DeKeyser - Hronek
    Nemeth - Green
    Ericsson - Daley

    Bowey

    Howard
    Bernier

    First line: duh
    Second line: Hirose knows how to play with AA and Fil can provide nice support defensively for those two
    Third line: Helm can get the puck for the other two; Nielsen can get the puck to Zadina
    Fourth line: Yawn

    Grand Rapids

    Svechnikov - Veleno - Puempel
    Smith - Rasmussen - Elson
    Kuffner - Pearson - Terry
    Pope - ??? - ???

    Lashoff - Lindstrom
    Hicketts - Seider
    McIllrath - Kaski

    Seider can play 18-19 minutes a night and run the first PP pairing in an effort to develop his offense.
     
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  4. DeToxRox

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    I bet Draper gets the gig.
     
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  6. goblue31602

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    Do we expect this to be an upgrade, or is Stevie just getting a former teammate in that he's more familiar with? I'm not sure we'd ever even notice an upgrade at this position, just curious.
     
  7. smeegsgreen

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    Draper is the fucking man. How dare you.
     
  8. goblue31602

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    I know he's the fucking man, I just didn't know if he was the fucking man at being the director of Amateur Scouting :idk:
     
  9. DeToxRox

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    He’s been involved with scouting for almost a decade now. Based on interviews he’s done he’s very progressive in his thinking. I think it makes perfect sense.
     
  10. DeToxRox

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  11. DetroitNole

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    If Cholowski is starting in GR, I hope Seider goes there and let the two play together. Also gives us the option to play him a couple games for experience when inevitably half our defense gets hurt.
     
  12. nofatchildren - cissp

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    The Athletic wrote an article about the teams with the worst contract efficiency in the league, and not surprisingly, the Wings are dead last.

    I actually feel like this belongs on the MurderedByWords subreddit. The writer pulled no punches when discussing exactly how bad things are right now:

     
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  13. miles

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  14. DeToxRox

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  15. spartanchuck

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    Can't wait for the chocolate milk story on The Athletic
     
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  17. Manny

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    Who?
     
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  19. goblue31602

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    33rd pick in 2013, looking at his career stats in the lower leagues, he looks like he showed potential to be a scorer and enforcer, but it looks like he's really only been given the chance to be a 4th line type guy.
     
  20. DeToxRox

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    Erne is an RFA but he has some upside. He is a better third line option than what we have for sure.
     
  21. DetroitNole

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    Tells me the young guys for sure starting in GR next year
     
  22. DeToxRox

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  23. miles

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    In the Montreal BTS draft video Bergevin has Seider as the 11th overall player in the draft.

    They were at 15, but that's probably some good evidence that Yzerman was right in that he wasn't going to be able to trade down very far and still get him.
     
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  24. DeToxRox

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    Where in the video did you notice that
     
  25. miles

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    You can see his list somewhere in the video, forget where it is exactly, but someone on reddit paused it and wrote it out.
     
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  26. DeToxRox

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    Do you have a link to the Reddit? I would love to see that whole list.
     
  27. miles

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    "Bergevin's Draft List as seen on the table in the video, edited slightly so as to be read."

    1.Hughes2.Kakko3.Zegras4.Byram5.Turcotte6.Krebs7.Boldy8.Podkolzin9.Dach10.Caufield11.Seider

    Bottom left: 12. Cozens
    13. Broberg
    14. Krebs or Knight 15. Kaliyev


     
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  28. DeToxRox

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    Prospects tournament starts Friday but we still haven’t announced our roster.

    Kakko will be there so it should be nice to see Seider get some time against him.
     
  29. Tony Wonder

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    Kronwall retirement announcement

     
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  30. DeToxRox

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    Prospects tournament starts today. Love that first line.

    Hirose-Veleno-Zadina

    Givani Smith-Gregor MacLeod-Ryan Kuffner

    Troy Loggins-Chase Pearson-Jarid Lukosevicius

    Thomas Casey-Elmer Soderblom-Chad Yetman

    Alec Regula-Moritz Seider

    Charle-Edouard D'Astous-Lindstrom

    Marc-Olivier Duquette-Owen Lalonde

    Fulcher

    Romeo
     
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  31. nofatchildren - cissp

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    You ever been to it? Seems like it'd be kinda cool to go to. Plus you never really need a very good reason to go to TC anyway.
     
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  32. DeToxRox

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    Went once a few years back. It’s awesome. Highly recommend it.
     
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  33. buckwild

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    Does it get good attendance?
     
  34. DayDomination

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    It's a fun time. Gets decent attendance. And like NFC said, it's a great excuse to go to TC in the fall.
     
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  35. DeToxRox

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    Wings games are nuts.
     
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  36. DeToxRox

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  38. DeToxRox

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    Seider chirped Dach all game. Just kept going at him. His aggressiveness was awesome.
     
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  39. DeToxRox

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    Seider says returning to Germany is the least likely option this year. His goal is to play in Detroit or GR. Clearly playing in GR is best for all parties. I just hope it happens.
     
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  40. DeToxRox

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    Wings are playing in the finals of the Prospect tournament tomorrow.

    Veleno and Seider have been great. Zadina can’t buy a goal but he’s making plays.
     
  41. Vinegar Strokes

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    Yikes. Not good re Zadina
     
  42. mufflax

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    i had an ex girlfriend from Detroit give me red wings once.
     
  43. The Banks

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    Small sample size, not worried
     
  44. Vinegar Strokes

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    Didn’t he struggle to score last season though?
     
  45. The Banks

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    12% shooting percentage so he was solidly above average. If anything he just needs to shoot more.
     
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  46. spartanchuck

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    The podcast I’ve been listening too tells me not to be concerned. He’s getting opportunities as creating plays for himself and others. Just needs to finish his shots.
     
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  47. DeToxRox

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    Veleno has 7 goals this tournament, including two in the last few minutes to put Detroit up by one in the third period of the title game.
     
  48. DetroitNole

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    From what I've seen, Veleno dominated the tournament. Hirose apparently looked great too. Saw someone say Zadina had a good tournament but looked snake bit, but appears like hes on the edge of a breakout
     
  49. DeToxRox

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    Zadina needs to stay in GR to get some momentum on his side. Put him with Veleno and Puempel and let them work.
     
  50. DeToxRox

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    Camp opens Friday. I expect a fairly milquetoast Camp but I do have a nagging feeling that Steve will do something surprising before we break for the regular season. The options on the table:

    1. Waive Abby
    2. Waive E or Daley
    3. Trade Helm
    4. Trade Glendening

    I don’t think Abby gets waived yet but his time is coming.

    That said, here is what I think happens leading up to our opener.

    1. Daley goes on IR to start the year for one injury or another

    Bert - Larkin - Mantha
    Athanasiou - Nielsen - Hirose
    Helm - Fil - Erne
    Abby - Ehn -Gendening

    de la Rose, Turgeron

    DeKeyser - Hronek
    Nemeth - Green
    Ericsson - Kaski

    Bowey

    Howard
    Bernier

    GR

    Puempel - Veleno - Zadina
    Terry - Rasmussen - Svech
    Smith - Pearson - Kuffner
    Pope - Ford - Elson

    Hicketts - Seider
    McIllrath - Lindstrom
    Lashoff - Saarjarvi

    Pickard
    Larsson
     
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