Official Cleveland Cavaliers Thread: A regular season team

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  1. HotMic

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  2. CTownND

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    Pretty interesting article I thought. Not what any of weren't already saying, but a solid look that the overlap and differences between Sexton and Garland.

    The thing the article really highlights toward the end is that the backcourt is a defensive nightmare. They cite an advanced metric that said Sexton was the second worst defensive guard in the league last year, now he's probably going to have to take on a lot of 6'6"+ SGs with Garland in the back court. Makes me feel this is totally unsustainable and they either view Sexton as a trading piece or a third guard already.

    https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/...ius-garland-cleveland-cavaliers-collin-sexton
     
  3. BuckeyeRiot

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    Powder blue jerseys are and always will be dogshit like the product that played in them. Very appropriate for this team.
     
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    Damn shame it wasn’t Austin Carr.
     
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    I've convinced myself that with all this young talent we might have a semi-fun season.

    CMV
     
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  9. dukebuckeye

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    Can we just simulate the season and start the 2020 NBA draft?
     
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  11. CTownND

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    Pretty important year even if our ceiling is like 32 wins. Hoping Love's trade value increases and we find a good deal with young talent/picks for him, we find out that Garland and Sexton CAN co-exist, and we find a very solid role player or two to take the next step (Porter or Windler please). If we accomplish that and hold onto our top 10 pick, we can be a fringe playoff contender next year potentially.
     
  12. Corch

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    This roster is bleh
     
  13. dukebuckeye

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    That’s being generous.
     
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  14. Corch

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    I'm just sure that Dylan Windler is the next Dirk
     
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    hopefully we suck again and get better lottery luck next year. getting someone like wiseman would be a lot of fun. interested in seeing how garland does. I thought he was the most intriguing prospect outside of the top 3 last summer
     
  16. dukebuckeye

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  17. Dick Dollars

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    If by championship contender, you mean possible 6 seed, then yes.
     
  18. dukebuckeye

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    That's basically a different sport than what we have.
     
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  19. Corch

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    Somehow I still get Columbus channels with PlayStation Vue so I get to watch this group of piss pants
     
  20. Corch

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    These guys blow
     
  21. CTownND

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    I thought we'd lose a lot of games like 120-113 this year, surprised we're probably gonna score like 92 today
     
  22. Corch

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    Kevin Porter has shot 4x since I turned it on.

    He's missed all 4
     
  23. CTownND

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    Just came across this article on 538 that mentions that Sexton might have had the worst season OF ALL TIME last year. I didn't know he was that bad, Jesus

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-players-of-the-last-6-seasons/

    We’d be remiss if we didn’t also touch on the worst seasons of the tracking-data era. On a rate basis (minimum 500 minutes), then-Memphis Grizzlies point guard Kobi Simmons checked in with the worst modern RAPTOR rating for his 2017-18 performance, which was 9.8 points worse than average. Simmons was mediocre-to-bad in basically every statistical category, except free-throw shooting (he made all 25 attempts!), and his team was outscored by more than 17 points per 100 possessions he was on the court. Enough said.

    But in terms of total value, the battle for the worst campaign of the modern era was staged last season between the Knicks’ Kevin Knox and the Cavaliers’ Collin Sexton. Knox put in a good effort — he was worth -6.0 WAR, so bad that we had to change our chart scale on his player forecast page to accommodate the value. But Sexton was worth a staggering 7.4 wins below replacement, easily the worst season not just since 2013, but in the entire post-merger period. Sexton was a rookie, and he did improve some as the year went on, so we should cut him some slack. But on a terrible Cavs team that lacked much in the way of alternatives, Sexton played more than 2,600 minutes at a -8.3 RAPTOR plus/minus rate, a recipe for possibly the worst season in NBA history.
     
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    Feel kinda bad for KLove still being on this team. For his sake, hope he's a valuable trade asset.
     
  25. HotMic

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  26. dukebuckeye

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    Dude is making $30m+ for the next 4 years with zero expectations. Don’t feel too bad for him.
     
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    And he got a ring; but still.
     
  28. HotMic

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    Hey, that was actually kind of fun.
     
  29. dukebuckeye

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    How we looking?
     
  30. HotMic

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    Not totally terrible, showed a little fight tonight.

     
  31. TheGrifter

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    This team is not the absolute dumpster fire I expected.

    So far.
     
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  33. Corch

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    Who is this Tristan Thompson
     
  34. HotMic

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    Kevin Love is currently doing his post game interview in a Jason mask

     
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    It's almost like John Belein is an excellent basketball coach.
     
  36. yaywaffles

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    we'll probably end up losing 55+ which is fine, because we need more talent, but this team is at least watchable. i'm also happy and slightly irritated that we're finally utilizing kevin love's passing ability. he's one of the best passing bigs in the league, and outside of the long outlets to lebron, we never really took advantage of it when we actually had a team here
     
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  37. Corch

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    They should trade him
     
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  38. Corch

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    Retire his jersey in a few years, give him all the cool tribute stuff but let him try go win another one
     
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    yeah, i'd be interested to see what the market is for him now that golden state's been blown up
     
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    Good move

     
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  43. BuckeyeRiot

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    I officially dislike these uniforms.
     
  44. Corch

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    Somehow this team isn't total dog shit. Which I'm not sure is a good thing
     
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    Sexton with 31. Beilein can get these guys to the playoffs.
     
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  46. Corch

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    God I hope not
     
  47. yaywaffles

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    i really want wiseman
     
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  48. Corch

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    Garland, Sexton, and Wiseman is a legit core
     
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    Had the Sixers beat and crapped the bed.
     
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