Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. sflnole

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    Is type 2 diabetes treated with insulin?
     
  2. VaxRule

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    Not always.
     
  3. Daniel Ocean

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    dead kids are the price of freedom.
     
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  4. sflnole

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    True, but it's similar in that your reckless choices are mitigated by the future cost to you, personally.
     
  5. VaxRule

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    Pelican, sflnole thinks you shouldn’t be able to afford your life saving medication because other people make bad diet choices.
     
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  6. ohbluefan

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    Type 1 is an autoimmune and type 2 a sugar thing right?
     
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  7. sflnole

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    It is, for the most part. I'm not sure what % of type 2 patients inherited their disease, but I'd go out on a limb to say most developed the illness due to diet.
     
  8. Truman

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    idiots on the homeboard are obsessed w that Misfud dude

     
  9. sflnole

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    No, but there has to be a cost to reckless lifestyles
     
  10. sflnole

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    No, but I think type 2 diabetes is mostly preventable and reckless diets/lifestyles contribute to demand for treatment, which affects the price of treatment.
     
  11. Daniel Ocean

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    And to you that’s billions of dollars of profits to pharmaceutical companies?
     
  12. Rick

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    This is not true at all.
     
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  13. sflnole

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    I think so
     
  14. VaxRule

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    Just STFU. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
     
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  15. sflnole

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    I can't find any sales data online, but I have to reiterate an earlier point: if a company can increase revenue with volume, that is more preferable to raising the price of the product.
     
  16. Daniel Ocean

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    Why? Because of capitalism and supply and demand? Can’t you see how fucked up that is?
     
  17. sflnole

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    Can you show me data indicating otherwise?
     
  18. NCHusker

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    When you have a market that literally depends on your product to live supply and demand aren't really relevant
     
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  19. sflnole

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    Wouldn't it be fucked up if some dude can sit in his apartment all day, eating 12 hot pockets a day, then using up medical treatment that could have gone towards someone whose illness was 100% not preventable?
     
  20. VaxRule

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    You don’t have the foundation of knowledge necessary to make the leaps you are making. You don’t understand the diseases and their management and the implications of holding type 1 kids hostage in an effort to force behavior changes in a population of people that isn’t diabetic. Your thinking is dumb and poorly informed.
     
  21. sflnole

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    It's entirely different when demand is largely dependent on skipping lunch because you had 5 pancakes for breakfast.
     
  22. NYGator

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    I mean I guess you could be right, but the idea of a big business with resources not being able to scale a commodity production seems like a stretch. It may have more to do with unwillingness to because if they scale the production and then lose the patent they have all of that excess capacity that may be very specific to a particular drug, but I would think they could make changes to accommodate for new drugs.
     
  23. Daniel Ocean

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    no because in my world both would be able to get the medicine. Their ability to pay wouldn’t have shit to do with their ability to get life saving medicine. Not dying shouldn’t be tied to your bank account.
     
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  24. sflnole

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    That's an entirely different argument. We started out arguing about price gouging, now we're making a moral case for keeping prices down

    Either way, keeping prices artificially down creates a scarcity, which would lead to the same outcome: people who need the treatment go without...
     
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  25. Duck2013

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    Health care is one of the few “service” industries that haven’t felt the forces of fee or price compression.

    it has nothing to do with market forces supply and demand or whatever is going on in the last few pages here. It has everything do with the grip they have on Washington.
     
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  26. sflnole

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    :idk:
     
  27. bro

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    Not really sure where to put this
     
  28. sflnole

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    I don't think healthcare should be profitable, but I do feel like we need to find a way to incentivize people to make the right choices that require less use of our healthcare resources.

    My opinion in this specific case is that the higher cost of insulin is likely due to the increasing demand for it (from type 2 patients), which I feel is preventable.
     
  29. Blu Tang Clan

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    People stupidly digging in, example 8,236,178.
     
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  30. Name P. Redacted

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    Oh my god who cares you means-testing loser.

    My company does this by forcing people to earn a certain number of points in order to get a discount on their insurance premiums. They’ve even rolled it out to spouses who are on the plan. Everyone hates it and figures out the easiest way to cheese the system.
     
  31. sflnole

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  32. Name P. Redacted

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    Damn how big did his dick have to get in order for it to kill him?
     
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  33. sflnole

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    That's one way to incentivize people to make the right choices...

    I agree with it.
     
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  34. Schadenfred

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    Bowers didn't kill himself.
     
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  35. Name P. Redacted

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    Except it doesn’t. Did you miss that part? 90% of people wait until the deadline before open enrollment to get all the points they need. Some folks have made automated scripts to make it go faster. It’s another box to check and hoop to jump through.
     
  36. BudKilmer

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  37. sflnole

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    Alright, then. It doesn't work.
     
  38. jokewood

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    I was going to drive recklessly on a motorcycle but then I thought about the surgical cost of removing an impaled fence post from my chest and made a better lifestyle choice.
     
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  39. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Not sure of the context or if this old, but love it.

     
  40. Daniel Ocean

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    sflnole
     
  41. BrentTray

    BrentTray I’m thinking Dorsia.
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  42. chuckmasterflex

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  43. CUAngler

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    That guy definitely looks the part
     
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  44. BudKilmer

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    Sondland gives trump a cool million and in return his whole life gets ruined :laugh:

    FUCK EM :warn:
     
  45. Lyrtch

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    i like when people decide to pick fights on topics they show with one sentence they don't have any evidence to support themselves or knowledge of the issue

    especially when it involves arguing with lets just say experts in their field
     
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  46. ~ taylor ~

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    Shut the fuck up. Insulin production supply is kept artificially low by the 3 manufacturers and the demand isn't the number of people taking it so much as it is that diabetics' bodies demand it if the diabetic wants to live. This isn't pork bellies, you shaft.
     
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  47. ~ taylor ~

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    You think companies would rather increase revenue by ramping up production and spending more money when they can simply raise price at their current production levels/cost. In what economic model?

    You're a dildo.
     
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  48. Randy Dangus

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    For all you guys who rip Spliff, you sure do shit up the thread with dumb arguements
     
  49. Beeds07

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    He's literally said I'm not sure or I think multiple times but keeps digging in.
     
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