Sports Card and Memorabilia thread

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  1. burnttatertot

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    Easily the biggest card of our lifetime, not even close. In terms of hype, other cards in the 80's that caused quite the stir were:

    1983 Fleer Ron Kittle
    1984 Donruss Don Mattingly
    1986 Donruss Jose Canseco
     
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  2. burnttatertot

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    It's suppose to happen today, my brother wants in on it so I'll likely take it over to his place and we'll rip it together like we use to as kids. We do a 'pack draft' lol.
     
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    I don't know if my memory is that good at this age. What about a framed set of baseball busts? Those I remember much better. There was Ben McDonald, Brien Taylor, Ben Grieve, Todd Van Poppel... some will say Phil Nevin but he'll always be a god in my eyes.
     
  5. herb.burdette

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    You never opened a pack, in complete disappointment, to find your third Tim Foli wearing mustard yellow and trying to bunt?

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    Ron Kittle versus Daryl Strawberry dueling rookie cards, I remember both as red hot.

    I also have Dan Pasqua’s autographed ball, because I knew he was going to be the next Yankee hall of gamer.
     
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  6. burnttatertot

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    Strawberry was my favorite player growing up, Kittle had the edge because he had a standard '83 rookie card found in packs while Strawberry's pack inserted cards didn't start until '84 and it was overshadowed by a fucking Yank (Mattingly).
     
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  7. herb.burdette

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    1983 Topps Traded
     
  8. dblplay1212

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    Came up for a cup of coffee in May of 95 as a starter. Had 8 shutout innings at some point. Moved to the pen late in the season and never went back to being a starter.
     
  9. THEBLUERAIDER

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    He has a 92 Bowman that it is his rookie card.
     
  10. dblplay1212

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    There's a 1990 card too. Both are when he was in the minors. He didn't get to the bigs until 1995.
     
  11. THEBLUERAIDER

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    I know. I was just saying I think the 92 Bowman is “the” Rivera rookie card.
     
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  12. burnttatertot

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    Yes, but traded cards didn't come in packs.
     
  13. burnttatertot

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    The summer of 1983 was marked by two important diamond-related developments:

    • The three major baseball card manufacturers all stepped up their games considerably and issued base sets that, collectively, blew away everything they pushed out in the previous two years of post-Topps-monopoly cardboard.
    • At the same time, baseball stepped full-bore into rookie mania, and particularly into power-hitting rookie mania.
    For collectors, this was a perfect marriage because of course we love great-looking cards and of course we love rookies who can smack the snot out of the ball. Line up those 1983 rookie cards!

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    But there was a problem …

    Darryl Strawberry, who was lighting up the Gotham night with his towering home runs for the New York Mets was one of the most gifted hitters to come along in years, maybe decades. The baseball cognoscenti knew he was coming, but that didn’t matter much in the world of baseball cards back then.

    Because Strawberry didn’t make his Major League debut until May 6 (at 21), none of the manufacturers deigned to include him in their 1983 sets. For the most part, you had to have logged some time in the Bigs in order to warrant a baseball card in the early 1980s.

    So as Straw went about establishing himself as the most exciting young player in the game, we were left to dream about his 1983 Topps Traded card and make mental dates with that still-nonexistent set for November.

    But even before Strawberry made his first appearance in New York pinstripes, an even more unknown slugger was starting to shrug his massive shoulders in the City of Big Shoulders.

    On April 10, Ron Kittle hit his first home run of the season for the Chicago White Sox, and, by the end of that first month, he had swatted five big flies.

    By the end of May, that tally was at 11, landing Kittle among the lead leaders and offering a rare bright spot for a ChiSox team that stood at 20-25 and in fifth place in the AL West.

    That first home run of 1983 wasn’t Kittle’s first MLB home run, though, and that would make all the difference for collectors as the Sox heated up along with the summer.

    See, Kittle was served the proverbial cup of coffee at the end of 1982, appearing in 20 games, and picking up 32 plate appearances. One of those ended in his first dinger.

    At that point, he was within a few months of his 25th birthday and had just wrapped up his sixth full minor league season since the Los Angeles Dodgers signed him as an amateur free agent in 1977. No one was excited.

    Well … almost no one was excited.

    Because, while Donruss and Topps took a pass on the 6-4, 200-pound outfielder, Fleer took a flyer and slipped him in on card #241 in their 1983 set.

    As Kittle’s homer total climbed the next spring, it didn’t take collectors long to connect that 1983 Fleer card to the Sox bopper, and the chase was on.

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    By August 1, Kittle had 23 home runs under his belt, and the White Sox had turned things around, up four games in the division thanks in no small part to their out-of-nowhere superstar.

    And, as the baseball card boom started to, well, boom, we had our first rookie sensation with big power whose card we could pull from packs we bought fresh at the local drug store.

    Kittle didn’t exactly make us forget about Darryl Strawberry, but he sure helped us figure out how to collect a phenom, in the moment.

    That’s a “skill” we have collectors honed to perfection in the years since, but there is no denying Kittle jumped rookie cards forward a country mile with 35 swings of his bat during that magical summer.

    The 1983 Ron Kittle rookie card is not just the best card from that set, it’s also one of the most important cards from the hobby’s history that no one seems to remember.

    But we do.
     
  14. herb.burdette

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    My Topps Traded always came in my Christmas stocking.
     
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  15. dblplay1212

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    Right. I've never understood why he was even in that set. He wasnt a huge prospect. He pitched 15 games in A ball in 91. He was unprotected in the 92 expansion draft. He pitched in 35 games in 92, 93, and 94 combined. He wasn't great at any if it. He didn't take off until he moved to the pen in the 95 season. So yea idk why on earth he's in the 92 Bowman set.
     
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  16. FightingCock

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    They put everyone in sets, hoping to peak interest
     
  17. burnttatertot

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    Couldn't have asked for a better box. I pulled the first Griffey about 4 packs in, the off-cut one. My brother pulled the super nice one that would grade pretty well. As longtime Mariners fans that box couldn't have gone any better.

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  18. poor paul

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    That Sheffield Brewers card is beautiful.
     
  19. burnttatertot

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    That would have been awesome! My parents weren't very supportive of our card collecting. My mom didn't really care about it, my dad was definitely against it and saw it as a waste of money. The '83 Strawberry is still one of my favorite cards along with the '84 Donruss. I still remember the day I came up with enough money to buy the '84 Donruss Strawberry. I purchased it at Stagg's in Kent, WA. Andy Stagg wasn't a very nice man and talking to him made me very nervous. Stagg's was a coin and card shop, I think the card part of the business really annoyed Andy. Nonetheless, I couldn't be happier that day and the card still gives me goosebumps.
     
  20. burnttatertot

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    Who makes the best One Touches? And what size holds the standard cards?
     
  21. burnttatertot

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    Nevermind you inattentive fucks, I googled and found the answer. Apparently standard cards are 20pt but the smallest one touches are 35pt. UltraPro seems to be the way to go, BCW can suck it. Couple boxes (50 of them) is a little over $60.
     
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  22. Joe Louis

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    It's not all sports related, but put the bar mirror collection in to storage the other day :tebow:
     

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  23. burnttatertot

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    That's bullshit, I hope you have a good reason.
     
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  24. burnttatertot

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    Almost forgot I snapped a photo of my brother's Griffey he pulled earlier.

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  25. burnttatertot

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    Sorry for so many posts in one thread this weekend. Opinions needed. Pulling out cards for what will be displayed and I can't decide on what one of these Bo's to use. I like the looks of the first one more, the 1989 Score, but I think the 1990 Score is the more famous one. Or do I have it backwards and the 1989 Score was the famous one?

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  26. Simon Templar

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    The second one for sure
     
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  27. Joe Louis

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    Have enough art work/photography to fill up the house at this point so this stuff wasn't hanging. Saving it for a proper man cave at some point down the road. There's a few nice pieces in there valued over $100 or so, last time i looked on ebay ...
     
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  28. FightingCock

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    burnttatertot , dont feel bad about all the posts man. I am living vicariously through you. We have been prepping house for sale, on market for 7 months and just now took off the market to reassess. My collecting has gone down to 0
     
  29. burnttatertot

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    I somehow used this decorating/display idea to justify purchasing nearly 60 new cards this weekend. Some I already own, but the one(s) already in the collection might be a bit off center or something and I want a better one for display. I'm not even planning to display 60 cards. I need to learn self control.
     
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  30. dblplay1212

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    Definitely the Score one. Idk if the Nike ad came first or if they stole it from Score but that was pretty huge in the late 80s/early 90s. That picture was everywhere.
     
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  31. burnttatertot

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    Dammit Cletus they're both Score cards.
     
  32. TheoB

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    Second one is the iconic one. I don't think I even remember the first one. Looks like it may be a football score set, which may be why I don't remember it.
     
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  33. dblplay1212

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    Haha meant the 2nd one. That's the pic everyone knows.
     
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  34. Crepeswithasmile

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    that 86 donruss canseco was every bit as popular, if not more so, that the 89 UD Jr. card in it's heyday.
     
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  35. JRodMK1

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    2nd one, for sure.
     
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    Currently in the middle of opening my PSA 500-card bulk order that came back on 12/23 (shipped out late May). I'm glad I've cut down on the low-end shit I sent in over the summer just to get to that arbitrary 500 number. Most are 10s but turning a $2 card into a $12-15 card while spending $6.50/card to grade is pretty much a waste of time.

    I did have 3 Mahomes Silver Prizms (two 10's and one 9) in there, which was about a $80 card at the time of submission. Now they're worth 3x that raw.
     
  37. burnttatertot

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    At its height I could hit a card show every weekend for two months and not even see a single Donruss Canseco card. They would be gone before the doors to the show even opened. That's one thing later on I enjoyed about becoming a dealer and doing card shows, walking around pre-show and snatching up any deals while other dealers were setting up their tables.
     
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  38. burnttatertot

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    Which way is this stand suppose to work, fat part of the bat up or handles up?

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    Better yet, which way do you prefer the look of?
     
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    On the barrel
     
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  40. CUtigers86

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    Not to be a downer but there is a doc about card collecting on Netflix. This particular card was pointed at as a reason for cards not being worth anything today.

    This was talked about as the most desirable card at the time until it was realized that this card wasn’t exactly scarce and they had printed thousands upon thousands of them. This box appears to be a good example of that.
     
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  41. burnttatertot

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    Are you trying to tell me I'm not going to be able to sell those and retire?
     
  42. CUtigers86

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    I figured you probably knew, but you were acting excited to find them so I figured I’d share for those that may not.
     
  43. burnttatertot

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    I'm still excited about it.
     
  44. TheoB

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    It's still a very sought after card, rare or not. I'd be very excited to pull that from a pack.
     
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  45. CUtigers86

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    Cool. I would too.

    But they printed a million, so it’s probably easy to get one.
     
  46. dblplay1212

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  47. burnttatertot

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    There's a ton of shady shit like that and it's why I only buy sealed cases or if I'm buying older single box stuff I prefer to get them from https://www.bbcexchange.com/
     
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    Any of you try through the mail autos? Not as sexy as these premier short print autos they produce now, but I've been watching some YouTube videos of people doing it and it seems fun. Some HOFers even sign for a few bucks. Certainly have a bunch of junk era commons to spare and send out.
     
  49. JRodMK1

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    Sure, it's only a $30-40 card raw but nobody opens boxes for the investment. You can't discount the nostalgia factor of ripping something you ripped as a kid, especially on Christmas. I opened some 1999 football recently, didn't get my ROI, and didn't really care. But when I pulled that Edgerrin James Topps Chrome Rookie I was thrilled and it was totally worth it.

    If you somehow pull a good looking Griffey, a PSA 9 can be worth ~$100 and a PSA 10 can be worth $450. Not entirely likely, but it's no different than people who buy Powerball tickets.
     
  50. Crepeswithasmile

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    had to run in walmart on the way to work this morning, grabbed a couple packs of panini prizm for shits and giggles and pulled this Ja Morant pink cracked ice
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