You can’t sue someone for contracting a widespread, easily-transmitted respiratory illness. It’s impossible to prove causation. It’s not AIDs. It’ll 100% be on public perception and the willingness of the leagues to push their luck on that front.
Don’t need to prove anything in order to sue someone, and it’s not like the actuaries are going to have a model for this ready to go. It’s about event insurance not practicality.
You don’t have to prove anything to file; to extract a settlement, you have to actually present a viable claim that has more than a non-zero chance of prevailing.
I get it. I’m just doubtful insurance companies are going to take much of a chance with so many unknowns. This is totally new territory for just about everyone. It’s probably moot anyway with the risk of a second wave hitting sometime in the fall. Without a vaccine or some sort of widespread treatment people aren’t going to be packing in stadiums anytime soon.
WSJ article from gottlieb who was the FDA commissioner from 2017-19. I know most in here don’t have the journal Spoiler Bet Big on Treatments for Coronavirus Antivirals and antibody therapies are showing promise. The FDA needs to step up its pace. By Scott Gottlieb April 5, 2020 12:09 pm ET SAVE SHARE TEXT 214 Gilead Sciences produces remdesivir, an antiviral drug that shows promise in treating Covid-19. PHOTO: OLIVIER DOULIERY/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES Some imagine that the coronavirus will run its tragic course in the spring, with the direst results avoided by intense social-distancing and other mitigation efforts, and then our lives can more or less return to normal in the summer. But that isn’t realistic. Even if new cases start to stall in the summer heat, the virus will return in the fall, and so will fresh risk of large outbreaks and even a new epidemic. People will still be reluctant to crowd into stores, restaurants or arenas. Schools may remain closed. The public’s fears won’t relent simply because there are fewer new cases. We’ll be running an 80% economy. The only way out is with technology. Aggressive surveillance and screening can help warn of new infection clusters that could turn into outbreaks, but that won’t be enough. A vaccine could beat the virus, but there won’t be one this year. The best near-term hope: an effective therapeutic drug. That would be transformative, and it’s plausible as soon as this summer. But the process will have to move faster. Americans would have the confidence to return to work, even if the virus is still circulating in the fall, if they knew that a robust screening system is in place to identify and arrest new outbreaks and medication can significantly reduce the chance of becoming severely ill. Kevin Warsh, a former Federal Reserve governor, estimates that such a drug could restore at least $1 trillion in economic activity. Given the enormous public-health and economic stakes, it is worth doing whatever it takes to move such a drug to market. There are two promising approaches, and both could be available soon if government and private industry do things right. It’s time to place some firm bets and put resources behind these experimental treatments. One approach involves antiviral drugs that target the virus and block its replication. Think of medicines for treating influenza, HIV or cold sores. The drugs work by blocking the mechanisms that viruses use to replicate. Dozens of promising antiviral drugs are in various stages of development and could be advanced quickly. The one furthest along is remdesivir, from Gilead Sciences. There’s evidence from clinical experience with Covid-19 patients that it could be effective. The other approach involves antibody drugs, which mimic the function of immune cells. Antibody drugs can be used to fight an infection and to reduce the risk of contracting Covid-19. These medicines may be the best chance for a meaningful near-term success. Antibody drugs are based on the same scientific principles that make “convalescent plasma” one interim tactic for treating the sickest Covid-19 patients. Doctors are taking blood plasma from patients who have recovered from Covid-19 and infusing it into those who are critically ill. The plasma is laden with antibodies, and the approach shows some promise. The constraint: There isn’t enough plasma from recovered patients to go around. Antibody drugs are engineered to do the same thing as convalescent plasma, but because they’re synthesized, they don’t depend on a supply of antibodies from healed patients. Biotech companies would manufacture them in large quantities using recombinant technology, the same approach behind highly effective drugs that target and prevent Ebola, respiratory syncytial virus and other infections. The antibodies can also be a prophylaxis given to those exposed to Covid-19, or to prevent infection in vulnerable patients, such as those on chemotherapy. These drugs could protect the public until a vaccine is available. The biotech company Regeneron successfully developed an antibody drug to treat Ebola as well as one against MERS, a deadly coronavirus similar to Covid-19. Regeneron has an antibody drug that should enter human trials in June. Vir Biotechnology is also developing an antibody treatment for Covid-19 and says it could be ready for human trials this summer. Amgen recently started its own program with Adaptive Biotech and Eli Lilly has one as well. If these approaches work, the drugs can advance quickly, because much of the science and the safety is already well understood. But success will require a strong sense of urgency from manufacturers—and from regulators, who need to collaborate with drug developers in innovative ways to move the most promising therapies. The Food and Drug Administration has deployed tactics in recent years to advance therapeutics aimed at rare and deadly cancers. One is real-time reviews, in which regulators work with drug developers to evaluate data as it is read out from clinical trials, instead of waiting until the trial concludes, to understand the potential benefits and risks rapidly. This has enabled drug developers to accelerate development timelines. FDA’s senior career scientists need the firm backing of political leadership to apply these and similar scientific approaches to Covid-19. Americans’ lives won’t return to normal absent a technological breakthrough. But with some effort, American industry and government can before this fall produce therapies that save lives and restore freedom and prosperity. Dr. Gottlieb is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and was commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, 2017-19. He serves on the boards of Pfizer and Illumina and is a partner at the venture-capital firm New Enterprise Associates.
I just had to move because my (now former) landlords decided they wanted to sell the house instead of renew the lease with us. We told them we wanted to stay in the house for the time we are in WA and they said yep that’s no issue. Even in Dec/Jan they said they were going to renew the lease, just had to “talk to their market analysis guy.” Come end of Feb I get a call saying “uhh sorry but we want to sell because we think we’d have to raise the rent too much to make up the profit from selling. Ideally you’d just buy the house, it’s a great investment!” Because of some other things going on, we basically had 2-3 weeks to find a new place and move. Incredibly stressful when you have an infant and pets and have to consider potentially finding new daycare. Fuck landlords, fuck investment funds, literal rent-seekers.
Curious what your proposed solution would be to mitigate this. Should the landlord simply forfeit the financial return to accommodate you and your family? Would you have considered contributing towards a significant percentage of the rent increase to stay? Not arguing any way so please don’t assume I am. I am honestly curious what the best solution would have been to protect all the parties involved.
I disagree with your first point but get where you’re coming from and appreciate that POV. And I agree generally that it’s doubtful we see large sporting events this summer/fall. As to the bolded, we’re seeing thousands/millions willingly flock to mega churches, parks, beaches, etc... under threat of arrest during the height of the risk, so I think if we do see the Big4 cancel this year’s seasons, it won’t be for lack of attendance.
simply give him an adequate time to move not 2-3 weeks? Not say yeah we are going to renew your lease than without warning change his mind? Treat him with respect? Name P. Redacted is that close?
It’s just so ironic that the biggest public health crisis/one of the biggest economic crises in the history of this country, all 240+ years and 45 presidents, it just happens to be when a human washcloth is in charge. I wonder how many lives would be saved if this happened 10 years ago or 10 years from now.
From reading, more notice would be nice in that situation. Yes, being a landlord is a business venture, but you’re also providing people with shelter. I feel that should cause one to show a bit of grace and compassion instead of simply trying to make bank. At the end of Feb they should have gotten a 60-day notice, not 15-20.
I started watching his speaking appearances when the whole shutdown really started and had to stop. Really can't watch the news channels at all without feeling super shitty
I've been following on twitter. My blood pressure is grateful. https://twitter.com/search?f=live&q=(from:atrupar OR from:ddale8) since:2020-04-01&src=typed_query
In Cali there’s a 60-day notice standard when it comes to evictions like Name P. Redacted and fam are dealt with. Also for rent increases over 10%. You can’t just say “sorry, you gotta go” and expect people to uproot their lives and find new housing, especially in expensive areas.
Shit, forgot you live in Augusta. How are things there? My Dad finally stopped going to church in Martinez a couple of weeks ago, especially since my mom isn't in great health.
He lives in WA If I am not mistaken, and basically asking anyone to vacate a property (including evictions) in less than 30 days is basically illegal. So if they did that, he should have recourse and the landlord broke the law. Also there may be some legal issues around circumventing rent control if that is in place where he is. I know it’s statewide in Oregon and could have sworn it’s active in Washington. It’s for sure in California. I completely agree on the respect part. I would have hoped the landlord would have proposed some solutions which protected their asset value but also gave Name P. Redacted an opportunity to avoid moving. If they didn’t, it’s disappointing and shitty.
See you’ve basically answered your question. He didn’t have to agree with a huge rent increase or expect the landlords to “forfeit financial return” for his family. I guess following the law would have sufficed in his situation.
I told him there was a large cost to moving (in time and money) and that we would be willing to pay a premium on rent to stay for the remaining 18 months we’re in WA. He hemmed and hawed about what the actual new rent could be and never gave a price. He felt bad kicking us out because he knew we’d discussed the situation at the start but couldn’t ignore the dollar signs. We probably would have paid up to a ~20-25% increase in rent. I eventually got tired of waiting for an answer and found a new place. I looked in WA landlord-tenant law and found that since our current 2-year lease wasn’t notarized it was considered month-to-month. I told him I was ending the lease and wasn’t paying for April — that upset him. I asked if he would accept splitting April rent and he said nope can’t do that. He also let it slip that he wasn’t sure he was even going to be able to sell now because of all the COVID stuff and asked if we needed an extra month or two to have time to get a new place. He kinda tried to bully me with attorney bullshit and threatening the deposit but sure enough he accepted the keys to the house at the end of March and has started doing the checkout. I understand his personal desire to realize a profit and don’t hate him for it, but it also comes at my expense so therefore fuck’em. Landlord/tenant is an inherently antagonistic relationship.
I think the equitable solution for residential holdovers of over a year would be to make the month-to-month conversion a unilateral option of the tenant rather than leaving it up to either party. Either that or you just stretch the notice period further. Maybe include some sort of statutory liquidated damages to cover Name P. Redacted situation (I.e., yeah the landlord may be in breach but is it worth his time fighting it vs. just finding a new place). The first solution I suggested would also encourage landlords to plan rent increases in advance vs arbitrarily screwing over good, stable tenants by taking advantage of the holdover. It does put the landlord at a bit of a disadvantage since the tenant could still bounce at their election, but when you look at what is required for each party to perform on the contract—the tenant does the heavy lifting and the landlord has plenty of remedies available in the event of nonpayment or waste.
They gave us plenty of time legally to move, about 67 days from the “end” of the lease. the 2-3 week thing is because my wife is doing a rotation in Seattle now and I (thought) I was traveling for work at the end of March. So we basically had the middle half of March where we were both available to move.
not to mention the huge difference in power dynamics. A good landlord is one that basically follows the law. A horrible one makes your life hell.
Huff is a stupid fucking idiot and the only goal here was to enjoy going "lol cnn fake news" with a bunch of like minded simpleton shitheads.
Yeah I'm lucky. I have a landlord that just owns one quadplex. Anything that's ever gone wrong here he's been right on it and I have no complaints. That said, there's a lot of legal loopholes for someone to be a shitty person and drag their feet on keeping the place liveable or skimping of safety standards if one were so inclined. And I imagine that in a lot of cases, unfortunately, being shitty is more profitable especially when you're talking about lower income lower rent places.