CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : Fuck em, should’ve gotten vaccinated

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  1. jrester06

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    I'm waiting to see what they do in Michigan in terms of baseball. The organizations have remained very tight lipped thus far about the urge to play. Tournament hosts on the other hand are posting business as usual on their websites. If any of them will have a difficult time it will be events with 60 teams with fans and such, coming from all over to cram into a facility while maintaining any social distancing guidelines. Not to mention 3 of my older sons were to be played at college campuses which are currently closed.

    But yes, youth sports is about $ these days.
     
  2. Lawnole23

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    My kids little league just starting putting new game dates on the calendar for June.
     
  3. billdozer

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    U.S. insurers want taxpayers to back pandemic coverage for businesses

    (Reuters) - The U.S. insurance industry is promoting the idea of an insurance plan backed by the federal government that would help businesses that in the future suffer losses from a pandemic, people familiar with the effort told Reuters.

    The campaign involves discussions with lawmakers and regulators, public statements and coordination with a broad coalition of non-insurance companies including retailers, hoteliers and booksellers, sources said.

    Insurers are doing this after facing multiple lawsuits, fierce political pressure and criticism from customers with business interruption policies over not covering their recent financial hardships due to the novel coronavirus pandemic.

    About 40% of small businesses have business interruption coverage, according to the Insurance Information Institute, an industry trade group.

    While these policies may cover revenue losses from hurricane damage, lightning strikes or cars crashing into buildings, they either exclude or do not specifically cover a global pandemic, however much it may interrupt business.

    U.S. insurers say they would not have the financial means to help every insured business affected by coronavirus, even if required to.

    "The industry doesn't have as much money available for new claims as people would tend to think," said Steven Weisbart, chief economist for the Insurance Information Institute.

    Insurers have a lot more money for potential claims than regulators require, but they need the funds for other types of claims, such as hurricanes and wildfires, he said. Eight U.S. states have introduced legislation that would require insurers to pay claims, mainly to small businesses, despite exclusions, efforts that could more than deplete the industry surplus if enacted.

    The U.S. industry has about $750 billion to $800 billion in gross surplus, compared with the $400 billion required by regulators, he said. The industry spent $622 billion last year on claims and related expenses, Weisbart said.

    "If we ever had a bad hurricane season or bad anything else, we wouldn't have enough money," he said.

    Insurers want the pandemic policies to be backed by the U.S. government, similar the government-supported commercial terrorism products after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
     
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  4. Redav

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    Socialism for big business and the rich. "Fuck you, tough shit" for everyone else.
     
  5. billdozer

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    As Germany lockdown eases, spread of coronavirus worsens
    Reproduction rate mounts again to about 1.0 in advance of fresh lockdown decision on May 6.

    First signs that the transmission of the novel coronavirus has again picked up were visible in German official data, just as the country attempts a cautious easing of its lockdown measures.

    The reproduction or infection rate - under close watch by health authorities - mounted again to approximately 1.0, meaning each infected person passes the virus on to one other, figures from the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) for disease control showed late on Monday.

    Ministers and virologists have hammered home the importance of squeezing the number below 1.0.

    The country has seen days of intense media and political debate after Chancellor Angela Merkel warned Germany's federal states against loosening their lockdowns too quickly.

    Since mid-April, the infection rate had sunk as low as 0.7 before inching up again.

    Meanwhile, the mortality rate from COVID-19 has also been rising day by day.

    By Tuesday, it had reached 3.8 percent, according to RKI figures, which remains well below some neighbouring countries such as France.

    The latest data showed 156,337 cases in Germany and 5,913 deaths.

    Rising infection and mortality rates could pose a puzzle for authorities, as a population chafing at lockdown measures is just beginning to enjoy some refound freedoms and an initial united front in politics and media crumbles.

    Further easing?
    Health Minister Jens Spahn, earlier in April, declared the pandemic "under control" in Germany, as Merkel and state premiers agreed smaller shops could open from last week and some pupils return to school from next Monday.

    Meanwhile, some large businesses like car giant Volkswagen have restarted production in recent days.

    Now the less encouraging data will flow into the chancellor's deliberations with regional leaders on Thursday, in the face of a new round of lockdown decisions on May 6.

    Until now, the May 6 gathering had been expected to bring further easing of restrictions.

    Merkel's pleas not to rush a step-by-step unwinding of lockdown for fear of again worsening the spread of the virus were dismissed or even blasted as authoritarian by some voices in media and the opposition.

    "Even if we assume that one person infects 1.1 others, we would reach the limits of what our health system and intensive care beds can manage in October," she warned earlier this month.

    "If we assume a rate of 1.2 ... we would reach the health system's limit in July. And with a rate of 1.3 - it doesn't sound like much - we would get there in June already," she added.

    Merkel urged citizens to stick to strict social-distancing measures that are still in place, limiting them to meeting only one other person from outside their household at a distance of 1.5 metres (5 feet).

    Meanwhile, all of Germany's 16 federal states have made mouth-and-nose coverings compulsory in public spaces such as shops and on public transport.
     
  6. Where Eagles Dare

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    Sun/Mon are always low & Tues is always much higher. It's been a consistent data point for a few weeks. Week over week is better...we are down about 10% from last Tuesday. Sun/Mon were lower too
     
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  7. RavenNole

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    and these number of infections are with a large majority of the country locked down and spending probably 5-10% of the time outside the house than normal and even less than that with people in social settings/close proximity.

    I can’t imagine what the infection rates would be if things were opened up in parts of the country.
     
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  8. Struggler

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    Our little league in northern CA sent an email 3/31 that there was going to be a shortened season starting 5/11. Not happening then, definitely not happening now.
    My oldest son had his swim and water polo seasons cancelled too. Swim has returned fees. Fall baseball, soccer and basketball continue to send emails for sign up.
     
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    This is how flood insurance and most agricultural insurance is run.
     
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  12. dukebuckeye

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    Read the link, fam.
     
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  13. Tobias

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    its funny you posted this gif because his insistence on things slowing down isn’t predicated on any actual scientific analysis. it’s all based on him trying to convince himself things are getting under control so the epl will be finished so liverpool can win a title.
     
  14. pperc

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    Exactly. We're looking for treatments and increased testing. That's the best we can hope for until a vaccine is released.
     
  16. devine

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    Missed that
     
  17. devine

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    Yesterday I went to my favorite gyro location, which is a different route than I have traveled since this all started. I thought the lights on my car were out, but it’s because there were so few cars on the road and so many businesses closed

    It was quite depressing seeing so many small businesses not only closed but completely empty, as they’ve already moved out
     
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  18. RavenNole

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    is that data actually saying what that tweet is saying it is? It seems like the study was to determine if a 5 day cocktail of the drug would have the same impact as a 10 day trial. Are the results showing an uptick in recovery rate/decrease in problems in these patients versus the average patient with that level of severity of illness?

    and before anyone asks i read the linked story.
     
  19. RavenNole

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    I’m surprised I haven’t seen this 2 year old tweet posted more frequently.
     
  20. pperc

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    There was a separate announcement from Gilead and NIAID that the 10 day efficacy trial was positive but data not released yet. This released data shows 5 and 10 day treatments are the same showing data... more to come but good news.
     
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  24. DeToxRox

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    If Ferentz was Governor there would be no spread
     
  25. indeed

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    What do “Medical Examiners” know about cause of death anyway?

     
  26. RavenNole

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    He is such a piece of shit
     
  27. pperc

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    Do you live in nyc?
     
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  30. xec

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    Why?
     
  31. two

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    De Blasio is wrong for calling out the ‘Jewish’ community as a whole. He should be calling out the orthodox Jewish leaders for continuing to ignore social distancing guidelines.

    The orthodox Jewish community is one of the hardest hit in NYC and yet they continue to have large gatherings such as weddings and funerals.
     
  32. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yeah that could have been worded a little better, to say the least
     
  33. Truman

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    That's something that should be said at a press briefing, not in a tweet imo.


    But as a tweet, I dont have a big issue w it. :idk:
     
  34. xec

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    Utah’s youth baseball organization submitted a similar proposal to the Governor. Utah’s youth soccer association then piggy-backed with a proposal of their own. Both groups propose opening up practices in May. Games by later May. Tournaments too. Spectator attendance would be phased in over time.
     
  35. CaneKnight

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    It's too bad our country is full of stupid mother fuckers who don't read these articles. Got a bunch of people saying stupid shit like "This isn't the governments fault" and "There's no way they could've done anything to stop any of this" or and my favorite "Trump is doing the best he can and everything would be the exact same even if Obama was president".

    Got damnit aliens, do the invasion thing already.
     
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    Ya, as a Jew, I don’t really care about the tweet. It is fine
     
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  39. Killy Me Please

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    Huh? The Orthodox Jews are the worst. They don't listen nor give a fuck. They hang out in groups all the time. And still go to Temple.
     
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  40. ohhaithur

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    Little League refusing to cancel their World Series at this point is ridiculous. You're going to bring kids from around the world to Pennsylvania, huh?
     
  41. RavenNole

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    it should surprise no one that Florida is suppressing deaths
     
  42. ohhaithur

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    You obviously have never lived near an Orthodox Jewish community if you take issue with this
     
  43. dukebuckeye

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  45. RavenNole

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    can you imagine the uproar if any other minority group was called out by name in that way? Hate crimes against Jews have also been going up in NYC for years.

    The orthodox Jewish community is a very small minority within the Jewish community that have pushed back a lot on attempts to curb covid-19.

    if we are going to say that trump is inciting violence against Chinese Americans by calling it the Wuhan/Chinese virus (and I have evolved on this with perspective from some in here along with news reports of an increase in hate crimes to believe this is wrong) then I don’t know how this is any different except the fact that crimes/words against Jews don’t seem to matter as much to some people.
     
  46. Killy Me Please

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  47. RavenNole

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    I would love the NYT or the post to do a deep dive and tell us how many people were in positions to influence this pandemic at the end of the Obama administration versus in say February of this year. And what the overall government experience difference is. Something tells me that would show why we have done so poorly and are so unprepared.
     
  48. Josey Wales

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    Not gonna argue with anyone’s right to take umbrage with BDB’s language, but that’s a different situation than orthodox Jewish community ignoring life saving social distancing and quarantining in New York.