And then they'll get sued for name/likeness. If Trevor Lawrence doesn't want to be in NCAA20 and EA puts him in there anyway, you think he doesn't sue them?
MJ didn't? Idk how it would work now but if he is given the option to be in it and passes and they just use QB16 like before I think they'd be ok.
But they didn't give players the option to get paid. I view that as different but idk how it would play it.
Personally I couldn't care less if the game had real players or not. I would buy it every single year if it was truly generic. Just keep improving recruiting and dynasty mode.
I disagree, for example when you look at the USC football team as a whole, the players can be viewed as a single entity "Hey that's our team, yeah the players don't look exactly like us but that's our team." Basic argument but holds water. If you offer to pay them all you're then looking at each player as an individual. Those that opt in will be included with all accurate specifications, names, the whole shebang. Those that opt out will be omitted entirely. Those omitted can't say "Hey look, that's my individual likeness in the game." as long as EA is smart and avoids putting stars in that opt out, like you can't have #5 on USC as a star looking like Reggie Bush if he opted out.
Sounds like bad idea but what if they made a lump sum payment to the school to disperse the check evenly to every player. A lot of ways that goes sideways but I could see it. P5 schools get 10k to split, g5 gets 5k, all other schools get 3k. Obviously adjust money accordingly
I don't recall the accuracy of the rosters being a problem, I thought it was the fact that they were using the players likeness by using real schools with NCAA student athletes that played football, basketball, etc.
For me personally, roster accuracy is a big deal. I don't care about names or pictures but Alabama should have had a boss as QB and WR's last year. I couldn't care less about the 3rd string FR RB but the starters are a big deal bc I play a lot online. I get that it doesn't matter to offline dynasty players though.
As long as they allow roster shares who cares I’ll just dick around with playbooks for a couple weeks while some nerd on OperationSports makes a roster file
Yep, would only matter for online play. I'd also imagine they would allow for custom rosters on online dynasties. That would mean it would only be a problem for 1v1 gameplay and I'd be ok with not working about it.
Also should add that details on the school itself are crucial. Colors, logos, uniforms, stadium, fight songs, etc. Its a tough sell for me if all of that isn't as realistic as possible.
i dont care about anything but recruiting and dynasty. roster doesnt matter. teams dont matter. only dynasty.
Well depending how they take on paying the players, should this new rule go thru, you may only get 90%? 95% accuracy? Idk, I think most athletes would take free money
An NCAA 2k football game with real rosters and classic teams? They could charge $249 for it with a shit ton of micro transactions and it would be downloading to my system at 12:01am on release
I feel robbed of being able to play with Alabama for the majority of Saban's run, especially the last few years. They sucked bad during the Shula years and even the first few years under Saban weren't great bc of their playstyle. The D was good but offense was dookie and slow. Having Tua and a 99 speed Ruggs and 98 overall Jeudy would have been filthy last year.
Exactly. If they had just used random generated players (like the ones you recruit in the game) then they could have continued to sell it. They insisted on creating duplicates of real people but pretending they weren’t by calling them QB#5. This was always more of an EA problem than it was an NCAA problem. As mentioned there’s no players union to negotiate with for likeness rights like there is for the NFL and there’s no way to be profitable trying to negotiate contracts with close to 10,000 players every year. The NCAA’s amateurism rules weren’t the only thing that prevented EA from paying the players.
None of them were great on the game though. Slow QB and slow WR's is no way to play NCAA. Even Julio was slow.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy an all generic NCAA game, especially if the teams and conferences were real. In a few dynasty years I'm gonna have most of the roster turned over anyway. Plus Miami only has like 3 good players I'd lose.
so you would pay $250 for a football game made by a company who hasnt made a football game in 15 years? id pay $250 for a 2k college bball game though
I trust 2k to make a quality game 100^10% more than I trust EA. Madden and really all their sports games have been terrible for years.
You would think at some point Kannell would just get so tired of getting dunked on by everyone and give up but not that guy
Yeah, you must have. I'm not here to argue with you, no one is going to make you buy it if it comes to fruition.
EA Sports undoubtedly sucks but my issues with NCAA 2014 and the decade of college football games before it were minor in comparison to the actual problems with game like the FIFA series.
what killed the NCAA is that they put the correct number and skin color for each player. Jordan was always some random ass white guy that wore #99
100% this Just assign the top teams more roster points to be dispersed, and make it all randomly generated players.
Some easy solutions would be just give each FBS team a set amount and they divide it out evenly among the team, each team gets the same amount that way each player gets the same amount. I don't know the exact number but each team is only allowed a certain number of players. Say each player gets $250 bucks from star Qb all the way to the long snapper. Allow advertising in the game on jumbo trons or cutaway scenes. Like with All-State nets behind the goal posts or the Home Depot game day show for a quick pick em every week. You could make a ton in micro trans actions. Purchase alternate uniforms, recruiting advantages ( extra points towards that 5* QB you need), extra pipeline state. For online play you could go the way of MLB the show, card packs with past legends and build your ultimate team and play other guys in legend modes. I'd gladly give up $5 for some alternate uni's and small recruiting advantage. I don't know if you even have to get the real names in there just use their likeness, and just like before guys over at operation sports will make named rosters.
The teams don’t want to be involved with passing out money to the players. Also, the game manufacturers don’t get to decide what the players themselves will accept as reasonable compensation for their likenesses. They have to negotiate those rights with the players themselves. There’s no CFBPA.
Your telling me that every kid wouldn’t sign a waiver giving away their likeness for $500 to be in a video game. Yes there are some smart ones that figure they are worth more than the set amount but it would have to be a set amount or I think you open a lot more doors for problems.
Most would, all wouldn't. I saw a report earlier saying Zion would have made $4m at Duke. Fields at OSU could make $400k. Some guys are worth way more than $500.
There are 130 FBS schools. NCAA had 75 man rosters. That’s 9,750 contracts to be negotiated and signed every year.