My company has been business as usual. GF works for Home Depot, she’s hearing July 1/August 1 but I feel like it will get pushed back
Not sure what you do for living, so not sure if that's good or bad for you. Yea, I don't see how we are back in July. That first rush is going to catch a lot of people slipping IMO.
Still here doing the same thing I could be doing from home but by gawd I’m physically here dodging a virus for the sake of showing up. Supposedly doing away with masks is the next step here.
I've said before, if Trump had ANY legislation to fall back on and managed this with even half the necessary leadership needed, he would have been given a pass for the failed economy and moonwalked into a second term. The problem is that he ran on economy and unemployment and his lasting policy is a failed tax cut for the rich and xenophobic treatment of all non whites. Now his only re-election play is to try and fix the economy, so lives cost at that expense be damned. The entire play now is to ignore the risk because as always, he's doing the quiet part loud and he's never cared about the working class, so they are expendable pawns to try and rescue his failing economy fading re-election. Unemployment numbers will dip since people are forced back to work so he has that number, while transparent to anyone with a brain but correct to his base and a promise of a new economy which is laughable. Add to it the necessary dumb dumbs bitching because they are forced to be at home thinking being able to go out is a right and willing to protest and arm themselves, and you've got a stew of stupidity to push to his cult like base. You can forget the government even attempting to close down once this ramps up again. His play will be to rally a bunch of awful people against state Governors for doing the right thing when they are forced to. It's going to be a shitshow.
Loosening up safety measures as things get worse. Texas! https://www.khou.com/mobile/article...riod/285-cde4c869-4ae7-45d0-bf50-d7dc89f3320c
You're in an office? Hate that there are people still out in this shit. I went to Publix last weekend for the first time in 6 weeks. It was like an out-of-body experience.
I've had to go in occasionally. I work at a power plant and we're in an outage. Most are working from home, but some people have to be there, so we've been rotating duty.
In a similar boat, was told last week we are definitely working from home through the end of May, but was told it will likely extend beyond that.
United Airlines to slash 30% of management jobs starting in October https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u...ng-in-october-2020-05-04?mod=newsviewer_click " United Airlines Holdings Inc. expects to shrink its management and administrative ranks by at least 30% starting in October, according to a memo sent to employees Monday, as the coronavirus pandemic wreaks havoc on the airline industry. ... A United spokesman said the federal aid didn’t cover all the airline’s payroll expenses. “We anticipate spending billions of dollars more than we take in for the next several months, while continuing to employ 100% of our workforce. That’s not sustainable for any company,” he said. Employees affected by the reductions will be notified in mid-to-late July. " I imagine this will be the first of many such announcements for the industry. The government bought off the layoffs until October. But the cuts will have to come sooner or later. This movement, likely at an industry level, will continue to be a drag on unemployment getting back to pre-recession levels.
I totally disagree. It's not about the ad itself. One thing we have learned through Trump is that when you things enough times it becomes the new reality. At worst it creates confusion about choices. This is exactly what it needs to be and it needs to be presented as the new reality. If seen enough as part of a coordinated effort of these types of messages it will have an impact on some people. Even if that result is to just make those voters who see this as their reality that much more motivated to get out and vote. It likely won't turn hardcore Trumpers, but that is a goal that no ad will probably work on. Trump could rape their grandmothers, while taking the money from under their mattress and they will still vote for him.
My coworker I share an office with is terrified of being laid off (he is the most senior and is in zero danger of losing his job) started back full time this week by his own choice. I started going in half days last week as my boss has me doing some conference room work in the office. I have a whole large area to myself since our development team is WFH and the office as a whole is relatively empty. I think they'll have us all come back full time first of June.
I don’t think the number will be that high but 200k dead would seem to be the low end of what I expect at this point based on attitudes and pulling back of stay at home/lockdowns. If social distancing isn’t reintroduced at some point though I could see things getting 2-2.5 times that number by the end of summer/beginning of fall and things like school and sports will struggle to come back.
In an office inside of a machine shop where there have been confirmed cases. I literally have to psyche myself up and go over my checklist when I do anything. I’m about to have to put on a mask and go into a an office and sit down with someone. I just have to stay on my toes because no one else is taking any precautions other than wearing a mask because they have to but they only do it sometimes. It is literally driving me insane and I’m sure I’m taking years off of my life and quality of life due to the added stress of constantly having to be alert because everything outside of where I sit is most likely contaminated.
Why would you make a statement like that when you don't have to? The rule of pandemics is choose a date when you have to be on record with an answer and provide that answer when you have the most information to illustrate your point. Doing it this early can just make you look like you are being difficult. I am not saying that your answer will be wrong. I'm just saying it is too soon to draw a line in the sand for something that is still almost two months away.
Yea, I mean.. I guess it just depends where it runs. It has to somewhat match people's realities. In other words, it'd probably do well in Detroit. Working class town where people are bound to be hurting more, swing state. Through my Florida eyes we're just not there yet. Maybe by the fall (but hopefully not)
They won’t even consider going digital for approvals. Nope, can’t email it to them and them send it back approved or what changes need to be made. By gawd you gotta take it into their office and get them to physically sign it. It’s really the craziest thing I’ve ever seen in terms of being stuck in their ways and the past. They still come into the conference room where I sit and turn the lights out when they leave because they’ve always turned the lights out when they left in the past
Basic safety measures is just "too far" for even the most moderate state Gov's, like DeWine. Did the entire right shit their pants of seatbelt laws too??? It's the same fucking principle
I’ve been fortunate that I have always been able to work from home, but our CEO sent an email out saying he’s floored at how awesome everyone is doing working from home country wide, so he isn’t going to rush anyone back. He said he’s relying on the science to bring people back, not the politicians.
The amount of people celebrating local mask laws not being enforceable honestly make we hope the next wave is ridiculously high. I know all the pitfalls of it taking out people doing things the right way, I just can't force myself to care anymore. They've broken my spirit.
20 kindergarteners were killed in a classroom and we did nothing about gun control in the country. Who gets killed doesn’t matter.
Because I don't want my boss thinking I'm coming in as soon as the company says to. I will be taking the possibility of a second round very seriously. I also work in an office that has people flying in every week from all over the world/country. If it changes and I do feel comfortable in July, then I will be there.
that sounds awful. I don’t know anything about you and everyone’s situation is different but if you/your family have savings/other income, you might want to do a pro/con checklist and think long and hard about if the job is worth it. Unfortunately most people don’t have the luxury of making that decision and it’s likely based on the numbers that you fall into that majority but it’s worth thinking about if you can. Not just about the covid-19 risk. Mental health is critically important. If you do need the job, continue to stay safe and hopefully find ways at night to properly de-stress, get a laugh or 2 and balance out the stess and negativity you have to deal with at work.
You are missing my point. You can say that at a time when you have more facts and have a better detailed picture of the exact situation you would be walking into. In fact, if it is bad by then, he may come to that conclusion himself. Saying it now, when he feels he has a different set of facts that say it should be good by then is just making you look difficult. Think of it as a negotiation. There is no reason for you to present your cards now when you have two months in hand to actually show the actions of that decision. Your last sentence is exactly the point. If it does change and you are comfortable, now you never told your boss no. You didn't go against him. For now, Yes, I look forward to getting back to the office when things are safe.
Holy shit, nope. T's and P's. I think the mental toll it's taking on the people still working in settings like that, like you said, is going to end up being a huge issue.
I think you're trying to make the Jake/his boss dynamic something it isn't. He agreed with me, then said that he is going to give everyone the time that they need to feel comfortable to come back in. Are you having issues with your boss or your employees?
I constantly have to remind myself that this is more of a vocal minority than anything. Especially the people cheering or going to rallies about this. I said it a few days ago. There will likely need of be a huge outbreak with constant media coverage tied to one of these reopen rallies in the next few weeks for people to wake up. Too many people don’t think it effects them or can happen to them. The school shooting acceptance syndrome (that’s sad but it doesn’t effect me) is applying here and that won’t change until it impacts friends/family/the community these people live it.
holy shit! -most people that’s sad! -most people “Libtards juicing the numbers. Fake news.” -trump and MAGA people
Your original post made it sound like you were telling him heck no, and it was confrontational. I was just offering advice on how I make decision during this time of uncertainty. I pick a date and say the decision needs to be made by this date and I know I will have more information to draw from at that time. No issues at all with my employees. They can all work from home until they are comfortable. They couldn't be happier. We have been very proactive about shutting things down. I closed my office the first week in March and stopped all travel by the third week.
Didn't mean to come off that way. My boss and I are very cool. My office was the same. They closed that week prior as well. We are more productive as a team based on the numbers. We have also done better financially during this. It's is healthcare IT, so that's expected but we expedited a lot of products for our clients at a reduced rate or even deferred payment to a later date.
they’re going to open back up large offices here in less than 2 weeks lots of people going to get fired even tho our cases are just going to increase exponentially
My bad for reading it that way. Yes, we are in laboratory software and we are definitely not doing better because labs are operating at 35-50% capacity due to the cancellation of elective procedures, like biopsies. We have thrown in first year for free, spread out payment dates, etc. but there is nobody there to make decisions. They are either furloughed or too busy supporting the rest of the hospital right now.
we've talked about letting some people back into the office if they want sometime in June...but with most people still WFH Who knows what the situation looks like in 30 days, though.
the spike in texas is going to happen anyways so i hope it happens in the next two weeks if they open gyms and shit like that back up in 2 weeks like they’re planning, there’s no going back after and we’re gonna be so incredibly fucked
For me, the anti-mask push is maybe most telling. It takes two seconds to put one on and one second to remove. If people are unwilling to sacrifice those three seconds every now and then, I don’t think we have much hope of “doing this correctly”. And as others have said, calling what we have done a “lockdown” is also comical and counterproductive. It just provides fuel to the “reopen for muh haircut” crowd.
I'm interested to see how many places turn to everyone WFH moving forward after this. Assuming they have the ability to within whatever industry.
This past week has soured me on our society even more so than Trump getting elected. I have to fight a perpetual state of sadness at this point at how selfish people are and how many extra people are going to die because of it.