Not a leap at all. You assigned some blame to black people for Trump winning. That's ridiculous. I think the group you're looking for is white women.
I didn’t write a treatise on the many failures of the DNC in 2016. My comment stayed with the context of the tweet that was posted. My post was simple and limited in its scope. If you want to take it elsewhere, be my guest. Knock yourself out.
can’t you see how he can come to that conclusion based on what you wrote, though? I kind of thought you were suggesting the same thing.
Not at all. Didn’t mean to imply. There were many reasons the Party failed in 2016. I don’t think any single failure lost the electoral college, but added together the Party failed. My post referenced one of those failures in the context of the tweet and projected to this November. I am very concerned the Party is going to repeat the failures of 2016 in 2020.
Black people voted 88-8 for Hillary. No matter the context, any suggestion that they have any responsibility for Trump winning is ridiculous.
Yes, but like any good fire good fuel needs to be added to keep it burning. A combination of Neocon garbage, racism, and Limbaugh-esque thinking from the 90s and early 2000s plus some trickle down nonsense leftover from the 80s gave us FoxNews... but for FoxNews and that echo chamber no chance we get Palin and all the Tea Party chud “patriots”. Without all that (and a black Muslim socialist president that kept these losers up at night) there is no Qanon etc. Basically time is a flat circle.
I didn’t in any way reference who the voters voted for. My reference was the turnout. If Democrats don’t turn out for the election they won’t win.
That was the basis for my original comment. The turnout wasn’t good in 2016. That includes black voters. As my post said, that was part of the reason Trump carried the electoral college.
most of that trump share have complete goop for brain. Old ass. Scranton/Delaware Joe may appeal to some small number. Probably why he’s made a point of talking like a hard ass. Also, show the educational divide. Like the saying goes, just show poor whites who they can look down on and they’ll love you.
you literally blamed black people not voting for trump winning. Not the sole reason granted but a reason.
“One reason Trump won the electoral college”. I purposely worded it that way. It acknowledges there were multiple reasons.
That’s literally what I said you wrote “black people are one of the reasons trump won”. IMO shuffling the blame away from racist assholes us wrong. I’ve felt this way for 3 years and I am not going to change my mind so we should move on.
I agree with you that racist assholes were a significant reason. I also know that the election was the Democrats’ to lose...and they did. But, I mostly agree with you that we:should move on.
100% agreed. At the same time I feel like it's time that all Democratic voters, regardless of race, begin to feel urgency and realize they have a responsibility to vote Blue in every. single. election* *I realize that POC are massively more disenfranchised and have much more systemic barriers put in their way to keep them from voting than a white male from Oregon. This was just a general Democrat PSA. Our big tent needs to vote.
Awesome. Black people are the reason suburban whites switched from Obama to Trump? This is a really, really bad take.
So it's our job to turnout the offset the stupidity of white people? That's a lot of responsibility to rescue a country that fucks us at every single turn.
People in Michigan and Wisconsin were taken off voter rolls in a targeted effort to keep minorities from voting. Edit: I mean it was nationwide but I recall it being big in the biggest swing states.
Can we fn not rehash the 2016 election? also that Palin thread was tremendous but doesn’t throw near enough shade at Newt Gingrich or Rush Limbaugh for turning the gop into a domestic terrorist org. I voted for W Bush twice bc that’s what I was taught growing up, Palin made me look at things like “wtf is going on here?” But she doesn’t walk onto that stage without a lot of help
Not sure why the blatant law breaking is shouted loudly over every fucking twitter account and news station
Does the house have absolutely zero power to do anything here?? Or is yasss queen to busy coming up with sick burns??
There should be hearings every day on all of this. At worst it dilutes the media from covering Trumps lies and at best, maybe people who only pay attention to politics now (not sure how this is a thing in this day and age) find out how fucking awful these contemptible assholes are.
Racist White men and racist white women are why Trump is president. Anyone saying other wise is a fucking moron. White people need to get their own under control and stop pointing fingers at everyone else.
It's amusing that the group that the country bends over backwards to appease has done everything to destroy this country, and the group that this country has treated like subhuman gutter trash since it's creation is somehow not only held to a much higher standard but expected to ALWAYS do the right thing and save this shit hole. Like fuck all that noise. Anyone that's trying to blame black people for any of the problems facing this country and can go fuck themselves. If it was up solely to black people to choose the direction of this country we all know damn well the country would be a much better place right now. We can apply the above sentence to Asians and Hispanics (Not gutter trash south florida cubans) as well. The problem in this country is obvious and it's not POC's
Tbh I’d still appreciate black women voting in large numbers in Alabama to nullify a bunch of shitty white people’s votes. Plz halp