As much as I love PMT and a couple of the Barstool personalities (Chaps especially), it's hard to justify consuming their content. Portnoy is MAGA trash
I get that logic in a vacuum, but if you apply those standards to everything what can you even consume? People watch sports on FOX despite hating FOX news. The NBA has strong ties with China which has a plethora of issues. For me personally, it would have to be something a lot more severe than this, while at the same time I still think the criticism and any consequences are completely fair.
Agreed. He looked visibly uncomfortable. I meant PFTs thoughts in relations to Dave. We already know he isn’t a big fan and this probably has to bother him a lot
PMT is all I consume of barstool, so I agree, they have the tenure with Dave but damn this doesn’t help their brand at all. Wonder if they separate themselves a bit or defend the company
Big cat is going to be a barstool guy forever. I imagine he will publicly criticize Dave’s comments but that’ll be it Pft will be interesting. He has equity too
Do you think he's ever going to get sick of having to defend/explain away shit Dave says? Feel like anytime something like this pops up it's Big Cat people turn to for an explanation.
I feel like he’s probably already sick of it but you know he’s loyal to Dave from how much he has helped his career. PFT won’t be around long IMO
Your average BS fan isn’t that offended by Dave’s comments on Kap. Maybe some other old comments, but not that video I just watched. This is a non-issue for them. TMB does not represent your average BS fan despite the narrative. We all seem to collectively like about 10-20% of BS content so our reaction/opinion is irrelevant.
Does Barstool have a voting board or something along those lines? I guess where I’m getting at what happens if Dave says/tweets something that goes too far and he has to go. I think he would force them to fire him or something.
I don’t see why PFT and Big Cat would leave when they’re making $75k per PMT episode + equity in the company. Something detrimental would have to occur for them to leave.
That was an awful video. They're just so casually racist. I can't imagine it'll happen, but I'd really like to see Dave ousted over this. His Tucker Carlson appearances suck. His BLM video sucked. The soft-pedal conservatism masquerading as "I'm just not PC" sucks. How fucking ignorant he, and a lot of times Big Cat/KFC as well, sound when discussing political current events, and how that inevitably has them talking about it in a conservative framing sucks.
The out-of-context defense is stupid. It's out-of-context to show a clip of Biden saying the n-word and not include that he was quoting someone else. It's not out-of-context to show a clip of you saying some racist shit without including that you later said what the guy was doing was okay. It doesn't make the stuff you said any less racist.
Surprisingly, the more money people make the more likely they are to be fine putting up with a bunch of shit.
Big Cat is a classic slightly racist Chicago suburb guy. Like he is for all the left wing stuff but will say and flirt with a little racist humor.
The $75k might be what the podcast bring in ads per episode. It’s not what they get paid, but after the CHD stuff you would think PFTs new deal would be in that neighborhood
No. I forgot the exact connection, but he had a lot of family in Chicago and grew up going there all the time. He moved there right after Wisconsin.
I’d be surprised if Big Cat or PFT leave because they both seem to genuinely enjoy working at barstool and all of the fun, stupid shit that comes along with it e.g. PFT being in that Pop Punk band. Not to mention the money angle. I’m sure like most people they’d prefer to not have to regularly answer for questionable things their boss says/does, but I don’t think that’s enough to have them leave what they have now.
Fantasizing about Barstool and Dave getting cancelled is silly. It’d be like fantasizing about Fox getting canceled.
several people have been "cancelled" off of Fox News. Bill O'Reilly, the largest figure on the network for two decades, comes to mind.
a lot of people here think chernin and penn don't know exactly what they paid hundreds of millions of dollars for.
and the fact they have the freedom to say/do whatever they want including disagreeing with their boss publicly
Thinking anything is going to happen is funny. Where is everyone calling for Jimmy Kimmels head? Jimmy Fallon? Howard Stern? They’ve all done blackface and they apologized and everyone is okay. Hell Canada re-elected Trudeau when he got caught in blackface more than once.
none of those things happened as recently as 2016 and they uh actually apologized instead of whatever lame “no u” defense dave is going with
I think that the problem is that even if a lot of them (including their leadership) are not trying to be what everyone says they are, they are becoming what everyone says they are. Whether they like it or not, they're a rallying point for a lot of really shitty people.
because there is a difference between something happening 20 years ago and something happening 3-4 years ago... or a month ago? Also, there is a difference between habitual behavior and a single incident. Also, they apologized.