Dark- What you know is a drop.

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  1. TrustyPatches

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    Lmao
     
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  2. rickyrubio4life

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    Just finished S3 last night. My only complaint was that they jumped around so much relative to the first two seasons until they got to E7 and E8. I found it more enjoyable when they stayed in one timeline for extended periods as it just allowed for more of a connection to the central characters. I understand they were covering a ton of ground obv. This is a show that I wished I had binged all 3 seasons together to keep some of the details fresh in my mind. I need to read a detailed synopsis of the whole show now.

    Overall I loved it and thought it was pretty perfect as far as the tone it continually set.
     
  3. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Hoping to start being able to binge this soon. Wife hated it so have to wait till I can occupy her so I can watch these all at once.
     
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    Finished last night. Definitely going to rewatch soon without the GF who I constantly had to keep informed of who people where and think it made me miss some small parts of conversations. Loved the season though and the last 3 episodes do a great job of unmindfucking the first 5.

    at one point there were like 5 Martha’s that shit was hilarious. And Jonas being like “I’m wrong here” listen kid in Alt World you’re not fucking your aunt for starters do you want to go down the rest of the list of why you should just call Alt world your home?

    the in-family killing went from unfortunate mistakes in S1-2 to :ohholkyfuck: in S3
     
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    Also thought we were about to see Victorian Bartosz and Jonas 2.0 throw hands and I was dead certain there would be nothing but closed fist sissy slaps and headlocks
     
  7. Wicked

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    The ability of this show to nail the casting of the characters is mind blowing. The resemblance of characters throughout the different ages is crazy.
     
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  8. TLAU

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    Cleft Lip trio made for a really great antagonist / evil figure. All three of them nailed it.
    Still think Noah played the part of the "bad guy" the best for seasons 1&2 while they painted him in that light.

    also thought him and Jonas 2.0 were gonna kiss for a second after he choked him
     
  9. TLAU

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    I'm fairly certain that Greta Doppler doesn't blink the entire show
     
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  10. Tarpon Nole

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    Just finished. Still trying to wrap my head around it.

    so, Elisabeth kidnaps Charlotte who is her daughter and mother with the help of Charlotte who is still her mother and daughter..correct?

    What world is this? Do they bring baby Charlotte to both new worlds?
     
  11. TLAU

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    They don't really touch on it in Alt-world that I recall that was just showing how it went down in regularville. But yes that's what happened to get keep that mother-daughter loop constant and presumably how she fell into Tannehaus's lap and why he couldn't tell the young 1950s version in his shop where she came from/who her parents were.
     
  12. Tarpon Nole

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    i guess my question is more regarding the paradox

    How did the “for Charlotte” watch exist?
     
  13. TLAU

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    it belonged to the OG blind tannehaus in the 1888 scenes. His mother's name was Charlotte so it was for her originally.
    Current Tannehaus gave detective charlotte her name to cover up/remembrance of his dead/missing grand daughter from the car accident
    Elisabeth in the future names her daughter charlotte in remembrance of her mom that she thought died in the apocalypse, who got kidnapped and taken back to give to Tannehaus = cycle

    watch cycle:
    Cleft Lip Gang takes the watch from Blind Tannehaus and give it to Eve
    She gives it to Space Martha to give to Middle Age Jonas along with the letter he burned back in 1888
    Middle Age Jonas keeps it until he is Adam, who gives it to Old Noah once he joins the team
    Noah gives it to young elisabeth in the woods and says it's her mothers
    Elisabeth keeps it until 2053 when they kidnap the baby and take it back - gives the watch to Tannehaus along with the child
     
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  14. Tarpon Nole

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    right, but the watch itself is a paradox, right? So tannehaus himself is a paradox and shouldn’t exist in the real world? Am I reading way to much into it?

    real Charlotte is never found. The accident and her disappearance are part of the plan to keep the cycle going. Tannehaus never creates the machine if Charlotte never disappears. Real Charlotte is taken back in time and is tannehaus grandma? Great grandma? And is given the watch.

    new Charlotte shows up, and is given the name just like old Charlotte was given the name. As remembrance of someone thought dead but really just travelled through time
     
  15. Lorne Malvo

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    I have one episode left to watch, will probably finish tonight. Tomorrow at the latest. Some thoughts.

    Sad to say, but I'm disappointed at this season. I really think the scope is too big at this point. I loved how it expanded beyond "present" Winden in season 1 and how it went even further back in season 2. But incorporating an alternate world, which brings about so many versions of each character, some seemingly months or weeks apart, is just too much. And I think it retroactively lessens a TON of huge moments. Jonas and Martha's relationship isn't anywhere near as important when there's this second version. Pretty bummed. I thought season 2 was awesome but it's sprawled out of control at this point. Hoping I'll like the finale a lot and that this paragraph becomes something to make fun of.
     
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    Answers in quote - this is mostly coming from a thread on r/Dark that dug into it (for the watch qustion) the 2nd paragraph is my thoughts/understanding of how it played out). spoilered for reasons
     
  17. Tarpon Nole

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    Well shit

    I think I like the way I had it better honestly. The names being what they were for the same reason, the watch traveling through time like the st Christopher necklace and even tannehaus son saying he had a “feeling” I took for the same deja vu feelings others had and Hannah’s dream at the very end
     
  18. wolfpck

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    Just finished and my head hurts. Few things

    -How did Claudia figure all this out? That went completely over my head and I'm very confused on how she came back from seemingly dying. How did she know that when the apocalypse happens that's when there's a loop hole and how the hell did she figure out the original world?
    -What was the the deal with Martha/Jonas in the portal/Interstellar looking shit where the younger selves were looking at them, but the parents couldn't see?
    -I don't completely get peoples motivations to stay on the loops. Adam/Eve I can get, I guess. Eve just wants her son to live and will keep everyone on loops to see that through. Adam I'm assuming wants to keep the loop so he knows where all the chess pieces are so he can end the shit once and for all. But what about Magnus and Franziska/Tronte/Agnus/etc. Seems like a lot of blind faith going on.
    -Anything more to read into the final dinner scene other than them just toying with us a bit?
    -Woller about to tell his eye story at the end and getting cut off was hilarious
     
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  20. Pelican

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    Will be watching episode 5 tonight. Looks like the second half of the season all have like 9.9 on IMDB. I am excite.
     
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  21. JohnLocke

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    I still get chills thinking about that end of episode montage at the end of episode 7
     
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  22. Lorne Malvo

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    Finale was really good and now I wanna rewatch the season because I’m guessing I’ll enjoy it a lot more with knowledge of everything.
     
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    Just finished episode six. Whoever was in charge of the casting for this show deserves to have an award named after them.
     
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  24. LookslikeUofI

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    Thought the same thing - but I still don't think I know anything -
     
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    Starting ep 7. Also I just went to the Wiki page and this is an actual thing on there to help explain things lol.

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  26. DirtBall

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    Even Fibonacci is looking at that and saying wtf?
     
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  27. Lorne Malvo

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    Even the Qanon folks are like “this is a bit much”
     
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    Just finished. Thought the finale was incredible. And literally right before the dinner table scene I started thinking about his eye and how it was never explained. Then suddenly poof there he is just chilling with his pals and lover and I got my hopes up. Dammit.
     
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  30. Shawn Hunter

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    Series finale needs to be in the GOAT discussion
     
  31. TLAU

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    Show needs to be a blueprint for TV dramas in general. They planned everything down to the season release dates on day 1.
    No dragging out unnecessary episodes and seasons for a money grab or because the writers don’t know where to go next
    Writing doesn’t get influenced by trying to please the fans that want to see it one way or another between seasons
    And if you look hard enough I’m pretty sure every mysterious event / question has an answer right there for you
     
  32. Shawn Hunter

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    I did the research, based on IMDB ratings of episodes with at least 1,000 ratings. The 20 top ranked series finale episodes are as follows. I'm only counting live action shows, there's a lot of Manga on the list, and a miniseries or anthology also does not count (sorry Chernobyl)

    15. Breaking Bad
    20. Mr. Robot
    24. Six Feet Under
    38. The Americans
    44. Person of Interest
    48. Hannibal
    55. The Office
    61. Scrubs*
    63. Dark
    78. 12 Monkeys
    96. Justified
    127. Anne with an E (what??)
    129. How to Get Away with Murder
    139. Friends
    145. Suits
    160. Nathan For You
    164. Daredevil
    168. The Big Bang Theory
    192. Banshee
    205. Parks and Recreation since the reunion special shouldn't count

    *I refuse to recognize that final season as part of the original Scrubs canon.
     
  33. WillySaliba

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    Sorry random side question but did mr robot suddenly get epic in season 3? Think we saw two seasons and it was alright but nothing I’d put on any list personally.

    edit I probably read it wrong. Carry on.
     
  34. wolfpck

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    Seasons 3 and 4 of Mr Robot are fantastic. They completely stick the landing with the last season and finale.
     
  35. Shawn Hunter

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    Yeah season 2 was kinda blah but the rest were fire.
     
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  36. TrustyPatches

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    Show needs GOAT recognition fight me
     
  37. Shawn Hunter

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    I will not fight you
     
  38. Shawn Hunter

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    I would also say season four of Mr. Robot is GOAT tier and the seventh episode of that season is the eighth highest rated episode in IMDB history. It’s third for live action shows surpassed only by Ozymandias (Breaking Bad) and the Chernobyl finale. So that makes it second for an ongoing series (as in not anthology or miniseries).

    Apparently the 2018-19 season of Attack on Titan and the final season of Star Wars Clone Wars must have been amazing because they own five of the top six episodes.
     
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    Personally don’t see they can put animated series in the same ranking list as regular TV series
     
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    Having said that I may fuck with Clone Wars if it’s that good bc I love the Star Wars
     
  41. wolfpck

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    That episode of Mr. Robot is arguably my favorite episode of TV.
     
  42. Shawn Hunter

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    It was a masterful hour of TV.
     
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  43. Lorne Malvo

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    For a variety of reasons (season 2 not being as good/lot of personal stuff going on in my life) I think I watched one episode of Mr. Robot in season 3 and never got back into it. Seems like I need to change that.
     
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  44. Shawn Hunter

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    Yes
     
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  45. WillySaliba

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    Same for me, I never even entertained starting season 3 until I read that.
     
  46. Shawn Hunter

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    Season 3 score by Ben Frost now available


    I'm sure some of you were wondering because it's amazing, but the song when teenage Joan and Martha have their final scene together is on here, it's titled Ob Irgendwas Von Uns Bleibt
     
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  47. Shawn Hunter

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    The third season is really good, lowest rated episode on IMDB is just an 8.5, 6 of the 10 are 9.0+

    But the fourth is an all-time classic. 9 of the 13 episodes are rated at least 9.2 with six of them being at least a 9.6, by far the worst episode is still a pretty good 8.4. The season has a 97% rating on Rotten Tomatoes with a 96% audience score
     
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  48. wolfpck

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    It also showed that Esmail had a plan from the beginning. Obviously not to the level of Dark and there was some stuff that was written on the fly, but the show started knowing how it was going to finish and it shows in the final season.
     
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  49. Lorne Malvo

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    Now I'm trying to decide if I need to restart the whole show or dive in at season 3.
     
  50. Shawn Hunter

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    We’re a perfect match. Never believe anything else.
    :cryingjordan:
     
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