This is assuming COVID is over right? Because I'm not flying in COVID Where you're the driver? Fly 10 Where you're the passenger? Drive 6 (obviously) I hate driving so much I don't care about the extra time, needing to get to the airport early, etc...
Love driving and 6 hours is nothing at all, so definitely that. I'm also a big guy, so unless it's business class, flying long haul is usually a pain in the ass.
A 10 hour flight can probably get you to a much cooler location than 6 hours of driving. I'd bite the bullet for a cool(er) spot
Yeah, like this doesn't seem to be much of a choice, imo. 10 hrs flying gets you international. 6 hrs driving gets you like 2 states away, at best.
Also, are we talking 10 hours of "flight time" -- which would realistically be 12-13 hours with airport + commute -- or 10 hours door-to-door? If the former, probably choosing driving
Well it's a really stupid question then. Because I would much rather spend 10 hrs on an international flight to get somewhere cool than 6 hrs driving somewhere in America
Any drive time over 6 hours and I refuse to drive it unless extenuating circumstances exist. Really 5 is pretty bad and getting into extreme sub optimal territory.
Driving. Split the driving up with friends/family. Stop at local food joints along the way. Gummy bears at the gas station. Boiled peanuts if I'm in the south.
10 hours on a cramped plane is a lot. Driving all the way. I think the question in reverse time wise is as interesting. 45 min plane ride or a 2 hour drive? Some people would say screw the plane. That hypo happens with people from Tampa to Gainesville for example.
On a 10 hour plane I just have to sit there and watch movies or take a nap. I can also get up to stretch or pee and not negatively affect the arrival time. I have zero responsibilities besides boarding on time. Few things are better then drinking at an airport while on the way to a trip. Driving wise I have to pay attention and be alert the entire time while messing up my back because I have to sit in the same position for hours. My wife barely ever wants to drive but always wants to stop and prolong the trip. In summary: Driving blows dicks and flying is the best.
For me it's being able to drink/take edibles(assuming it would be me that is driving) vs hassle of getting to the airport, going through security etc. If this hypothetical is purely amount of time(and not hassle of the airport) I'm taking the plane.
there is nothing worse than your wife wanting to stop every hour (or less) to pee on a long car ride.
I love road trip driving. I hate road trip passengering. Passengers in the car makes a huge difference too.
Final Itinerary: Hollywood - Carmel, CA Carmel - Mendocino, CA Mendocino - Canon Beach, OR Canon Beach - Neah Bay, WA Neah Bay - Whitefish, MT "Road to the sun" St. Mary - Jackson Hole Jackson Hole - Cheyenne Cheyenne - Omaha Omaha - Detroit Detroit - Atlanta Atlanta - Tampa Tampa - New Orleans New Orleans - Dallas Dallas - Santa Fe Santa Fe - Grand Canyon Grand Canyon - Vegas Vegas - LA Open to suggestions along the way though.
I'm 100% biased but if you're going all the way to the Eastern US, I'd make it to the east coast. I'd put Charleston, SC in for Atl then you can still drive down the coast to get to Tampa.
Several of the southeast aspects are family visits. I've been to Charleston a lot though, definitely a fan.
Right now the east side of Glacier NP is inaccessible. The Blackfoot Reservation is expected to be closed until the end of the year. Which means you can't get to St. Mary's. You can drive most of the going to the sun road, but you would have to turn around and head back to whitefish.
Yea I was being sarcastic, the entire trip is pretty much scenery so person-to-person interaction is pretty minimal aside from the two family stops.
Somebody mind posting por favor? https://www.economist.com/asia/2020...lk_0RamC6QHtrA56IIzwNug_LPLkgyhOP5xqbEw4KGVIQ
Not really any cliche beach stops, so if she wants that vibe at all then maybe visit one of the islands near Tampa. Or even go down to the Keys (not close).
Spoiler: Si ONE OF THE bigger riddles of the global pandemic lies in South-East Asia. Despite being close to the source of covid-19, in China, and to one of the current hotspots of the outbreak, India, the partly or largely Buddhist countries of Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand and Vietnam have scarcely sneezed. Vietnam is the standout: with 97m people, it claims no deaths from covid-19. Thailand, with 70m, has seen just 58 fatalities and no local transmission in over 40 days. Impoverished Myanmar claims just six deaths from 317 cases, while Cambodia (141 confirmed cases) and tiny Laos (19 cases) also have no deaths apiece and no local transmission since April. Compare that with the nearby archipelagic nations of Indonesia (some 68,100 cases and 3,400 deaths) and the Philippines (50,400 cases and 1,300 deaths), where the pandemic still rages. Set aside karmic grace as an explanation, especially given that Vietnam’s communist dictatorship is atheist. Vietnam’s success, indeed, is easiest to explain. The country has a suspicion of its big northern neighbour, China, rooted in millennia of historical interaction. At the start of the year it instinctively distrusted China’s reassurances about the disease and even launched cyber-attacks to get better information on the epidemic’s course. It closed its border and used authoritarian powers to lock down the population and trace and isolate cases. That, in essence, is what China’s communist authorities were also doing. Few governments have both the overweening power and effective health systems needed to emulate China and Vietnam, but Thailand, a sham democracy overseen by generals, perhaps comes closest. The quality of its health care makes Thailand a popular destination for medical tourism. Moreover, the government was quick to set up a vigorous covid-fighting task-force. Thailand’s success comes despite close ties with China. Plenty of people-to-people exchanges might have been expected to spread infection. But that has not happened in Laos, which is too small to resist China’s blandishments, Myanmar, which is awash with Chinese traders and smugglers, or Cambodia, whose strongman, Hun Sen, is the region’s biggest cheerleader for China. Chinese construction is reshaping these countries, which all came under pressure not to close borders with China even as the pandemic spread. Mr Hun Sen pointedly travelled to Beijing in February, at the height of the Chinese epidemic. Thailand was welcoming Chinese visitors well into March. Myanmar’s border with China is extremely porous. Why did visitors from China not seed more South-East Asian outbreaks? One widespread suspicion is that they did, but these were not reported. Testing is severely limited in Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar. Yet, says Frank Smithuis of Medical Action Myanmar, a charity with several clinics around the country, if there had been large-scale transmission, his organisation would have noticed. It is not possible, he says, to hide a covid-19 outbreak—especially in Myanmar, the world’s “gossip country number one”. Experts in Cambodia, Thailand and Vietnam see no evidence of widespread transmission, such as people showing up at hospitals. Even the poorest countries adopted measures that must have helped check the spread of the coronavirus. Thitinan Pongsudhirak of Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok reports that migrant workers returning from Thailand to their villages in Myanmar often had to quarantine for 14 days in a shack outside their village. Other factors that may have helped, say health experts, include high numbers of people living in the countryside rather than in crowded cities; people more likely to live with fans and open windows than air-conditioning; the relative youth of the region; and a pre-existing proclivity for masks. There may be a religious element, too. The wai, a Buddhist greeting of palms pressed together, helps with social distancing. The question now is whether South-East Asia’s Buddhist successes can weather second or third waves. Perhaps, Mr Thitinan suggests, low transmission from China was not the miracle some divine—the giant neighbour, after all, quickly got on top of its epidemic. Now, transmission routes are changing. Across Asia, infections are being imported from all round the world, seeding local transmission, most recently in Hong Kong. The crowds this week in South-East Asian temples celebrating the start of Buddhist lent are a reminder of how easy it is to let covid guards fall.
If Argentina/South America isn't an option during January, Mexico might be a plan B -- something like two weeks in Tulum, two weeks around Oaxaca. Really just want to do a month test-run working remotely part-time. Need to stay in somewhat the same timezone, so Asia isn't an option. Would be a shame if I get stuck in South America and US closes its borders. A man can dream.
just as someone who’s entire family including parents live in Mexico ( you don’t seem like a stay at resort type of guy) Mexico is doing a terrible job with coronavirus and relying on herd immunity and gave up testing.......and people there just aren’t taking it seriously they aren’t really trying to track data on how bad it really is..........otherwise yes a month in Tulum or Oaxaca sounds amazing
have you ever watched Bald and Bankrupt on YouTube? If not I would watch his travel videos of the ex Soviet bloc during corona