I liked Lev and Yara, and the Scars using whistles as communication was a nice touch. The locations were great, but overall I honestly wished TLOU was the only one. The new enemy types of infected were well done especially the stalkers.
I loved the game. Not as good as the first one, but really high quality experience. I don’t understand why people hate it... is it just a right wing anti-gay thing?
Just finished yesterday. I personally really enjoyed it. I will admit I didn't like playing as Abby at first but I think it worked in the end. Spoiler I will agree with some that I didn't like having to fight Ellie as Abby. I think that should have all been a cut scene. But I also didn't like having to fight Abby in the end either. Ellie is as an idiot for going back.
Sometimes people have different experiences and preferences and don’t like the game. It doesn’t make them...
if i was anti-gay/trans, i wouldnt paint my nails. yet here i am typing this with a very nice sparkly dark grey on today. if i was anti-semitic one of my best friends wouldnt be jewish not everything has to be political. i didnt like the game because i didnt like the game.
I read it a bit differently I guess. The trauma of Joel's death haunts Ellie throughout the game, even after returning home and starting up her idyllic life with Dina. She has the PTSD episode, and you can see in her journal that all her memories of Joel are still poisoned. She goes to Santa Barbara not because of Tommy but because she thinks it's the only way she can make herself whole again I think her walking away from the guitar and all her other stuff at the end was meant to signify that she's finally come to terms with Joel's death and has found some semblance of peace. And I think it's important that the defining acts of both Abby and Ellie toward the end of the game were of mercy, not vengeance I actually found the ending uplifting, at least as uplifting as an ending can be given how bleak much of the game was
I would agree from a gameplay standpoint. I think I prefer the original story though. Both are good but the first is more focused.
i will comment further and speak my piece To me, the sequel was more unfocused and I’d say deliberately “messy” because it was about consequences and perspectives. To me the “story” for TLOU was very simple (two people try to get from point A to point B) but the effectiveness of it is that virtually all the characters you occupy and run into feel very human, which to me is not so much story as it is well written characterizations. Even a side character like say Bill is a better character than a vast majority of main protagonists in games. I really liked TLOU2 because it expanded upon the original by exploring the consequences of characters actions, along with perspectives of various people who may not be inherently bad or even evil but who at times embody the unrelentingly cruel environment in which they inhabit and how they act upon the horrible situations thrust upon them that being said, I don’t really want to play another game in this universe because I thought Ellie’s ending was perfect
Agreed with all that. I liked what it said about revenge and what can be the consequences of seeking revenge.
not sure this game really has good guys and bad guys (well, except the rattlers). These characters are mirror images of each other. I really appreciated the chance ND took with Abby. Youre supposed to hate her initially. And I wasn't thrilled when the game shifted to her perspective (I knew there were abby missions, but didn't realize the entire second half of the game was from her pov), but i think her perspective actually enriches the story as a whole
Absolutely my two favorite missions of the entire game. I love Ellie and Dina riding around Seattle but those gameplay parts themselves don't hold a candle to the best of the Abby missions.
Finally finished last night at 2am. Loved the story, characters, setting, but didn't like the gameplay so much. I knew it would be exactly like previous ND games so it wasn't a huge turnoff. Plus I figured out that I could change to easy settings and just run through a lot of levels. With that said, the skyscraper/hotel and hospital levels were amazing and two of the best ND levels ever. I loved the story telling and dual perspectives plus the Santa Monica epilogue was great too. I was a fan of Abby and got very upset for a moment when Ellie said she couldn't let her go. Loved the ending and hope there are no more. And jfc at the upset chuds who skipped this game. Fuck em.
Just finished. ND always does an amazing job of giving characters context and purpose and this game was no different. I actually wasn't really into Ellie's Seattle journey. The pacing just felt repetitive and I was missing the more human encounters where you meet new allies and friends. It was just a typical "new area, kill things, new area, kill things, etc..." In context it makes some sense since she walked into a civil war but really couldnt find a single person who wasnt a wolf or a scar? But then came Abby and the job they did with her story arc was masterful. After they build up Owen and Mel as characters as really just good people (as much as there is in this world I guess)...then knowing Ellie is going to kill them is brilliant and dark storytelling. It truly turned me to team Abby and thought we were heading to Ellie's death. One thing this game touched on more were kids and families in this world. Not just the pregnancies of Dina and Mel but also seeing a daycare in Seattle. You also see what's left behind of kids trying to grow up in an aquarium. A couple of other notes you find reference families just trying to move. As a father, this really affected me just thinking about it. The ending was great and for some reason I thought Ellie was trying to find her one last time to apologize and not kill Abby. I imagined Ellie not sleeping at night after killing Mel and not dealing with it. Boy was I wrong. I did think the Rattlers resort was totally unnecessary at that point though. Santa Barbara should have been calm. Didn't need another faction to just kill through. Abby making it to the Firefly island with Lev is also satisfying. The new start screen basically confirms this. So I was happy with that too and I assume Ellie makes is back to Jackson. One pace I thought it was going though...Ellie going with Abby to join the fireflies and ultimately getting the vaccine surgery. Just thinking maybe they continued the doctor's work or something and it all comes back to Ellie's immunity. Surprised it didn't have as much meaning in this game. Now please don't make LOU3 unless it's about JJ in 20 years.
If they do another Last of Us I want all new characters but honestly I'd rather they do something else.
I was definitely not a fan of Abby until getting deeper in her story. Really hated the fight between her and Ellie. Why couldn’t I just let Ellie win and be done with it? Agree that should have just been a cut scene. Also super happy Ellie didn’t go through with killing her. I’m a person who likes some closer, so I didn’t really like the end. Would love to know where Ellie ended up.
I'm late, but just started playing as Abby in the middle of the fucking climax and what a god damn awful decision that was (chronologically) from ND. I understand what they're doing, but they could have done this in a better way. Because right now I don't give two fucks about any of this dialogue/story/her stupid fucking dad that wanted to kill Ellie. and now I have to do this for another 10-12 hours?
I mean, I'm treating this like a heartless entertainment movie because I have no sympathy for her or her motivations ever. "Oh look at the stadium, the WLF has kids in it too" Spoiler
While I enjoyed Abby's story (I want more stories from the universe) I do agree the timing and order of how you play made it less enjoyable in a few ways. One was Abby's story felt a little more drawn out because you're just waiting on that climax scene. Not sure of the best solution but I did find myself thinking that for a lot of the game.
Laughable idea the world was being saved. Especially with all the monstrous things the Fireflies were doing.
In fairness to ND they never knew we would all know way too much about pandemic vaccine production and distribution by now
One of the major points of the first game was to portray that humanity WAS the monster, Joel would have been sacrificing his baby girl a second time to save more monsters.