DotA 2: -APEM pros only go fast!

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  1. RonBurgundy

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    They still prefer Minecraft and star dew valley, filthy plebs
     
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  2. BrickTamland

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    Are any of you "Used2BGud"? Trying to rid my friends list of all the weirdos I used to play with.
     
  3. BrickTamland

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    Handcuffed and I will be starting a Diretide match at 8pm CST.
     
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  4. RonBurgundy

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    It was my birthday yesterday so I was spending time with my family.
     
  5. BrickTamland

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    Weaver seems really strong in Diretide.
     
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  6. RonBurgundy

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    There was a thread on dota 2 reddit that Clinkz, WR, undying, SS and a Storm spirit had highest win rates.

    I think weaver, Zeus are both good too
     
  7. jplaYa

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  8. Handcuffed

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  9. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    I take CM.
    Other team second picks AM.
    My team proceeds to pick WK and Medusa.

    I missed this game
     
  10. RonBurgundy

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    The Trench!
     
  11. BrickTamland

    BrickTamland You're not Ron...
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    The Dota plus integration is really nice. Did Valve buy them?

    Also, no five feels really good right now except Warlock. WD feels okay, Omni situationally, and Venge if she has the right lineup.

    CM is still my favorite hero in that position but I cannot play her with an uncoordinated team of four people that think they need to carry the game solo. She falls of a fucking cliff at a certain point.
     
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  12. RonBurgundy

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    IMO in our bracket:

    S Tier:
    Warlock
    Ogre

    A tier:
    AA
    WD
    Undying

    B Tier:
    CM
    Oracle

    Trash
    Everything else

    The WOAT
    Lion (my favorite :( )
     
  13. BrickTamland

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    I have trouble laning ogre. May be that I need to start with more mangoes and bully the lane early, but I always feel under-leveled and oom.
     
  14. BrickTamland

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    And Lion seems to have scaling on account of the permanent damage buff.

    Don’t let this game tell you to stop fingering and sucking, RonBurgundy.
     
  15. RonBurgundy

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    The key is not to over commit until level 2. Level 1 you ignite and right click but you can still die easily. I will buy OoV if we have a kill lane, otherwise my job is to harass but absolutely do not feed. Level 2 is a huge spike with 2 high damage spells, 1 slow 1 stun. I usually go 6 tangos, 1 salve, 1 clarity and 3 mango and ship myself more mangoes after bounties.

    you can feed super easily at lvl 1

    I’ll only go OoV if my carry is an easy kill lane (like Jugg, Sven, WK)
     
  16. RonBurgundy

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    The issue is Lion is so fucking weak and his range is so shitty, if you get blink, you initiate well but instantly die, or you just sit on the back and be worthless aside from 1 low damage stun and an insanely long CD nuke.

    Glimmer/aether is way better, but hero still sucks rn. Unbelievably fun, and my favorite hero to play so hopefully he gets buffed
     
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  17. Handcuffed

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    i think the best 5s are:

    undying (op right now imo, soul rip and tombstone are so good midgame)
    snapfire (does everything)
    treant (bkb piercing root, pretty good in lane)
    cm (esp with spell casters)
    magnus (good for passive laning with a melee carry)

    everything pretty much works because you get so much farm in low mmr brackets but i feel good playing any of the 5 above

    only support i think is dogshit is kotl and even that probably works with bristle, timbersaw, slardar, etc
     
  18. BrickTamland

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    I need to look into this Snapfire character you speak of...
     
  19. RonBurgundy

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    Mag as a 5 feels miserable to play imo.

    I have 1 lifetime snap game.

    undying max soul rip is OP until BKBs or 30+ minutes. Against the wrong lineups he feels worthless though so I put him A tier not S. Warlock never feels worthless and Ogre is only worthless if your team doesn’t have a right clicking core.
     
  20. BrickTamland

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    I’m lucky when my teams don’t have four right clicking cores.
     
  21. Bricktop the white

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  22. BrickTamland

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    How is Tony played?

    Is Tony played?
     
  23. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
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    Mid, sometimes as a greedier 4 from watching.
     
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  24. RonBurgundy

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  25. Handcuffed

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    swiggle promised he'd get back in but he's a none liar

    i'll be around all holiday/weekend. not much else to do..
     
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  26. Bricktop the white

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    im booked solid rn but tag me next time.
     
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  28. Skiddly

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    Damn sorry fellas. Missed you by about 15 minutes it looks like.
     
  29. Handcuffed

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    does miles even play dota anymore?
     
  30. BrickTamland

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    Treant seems perfectly suited for a 5pos hero in Turbo.
     
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  31. Skiddly

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    Anyone play a lot of turbo? Is it worth it to get farming items?

    My buddy only plays turbo, but I never do. Don't want to be bad.
     
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  32. RonBurgundy

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    I still build BF on PA and AM if that's what you are asking.

    You certainly don't NEED to, but it's still not horrible. Fighting kills and passive gold are worth so much it's ok to just brawl all match and you'll be farmed enough.
     
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  33. Skiddly

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    Yeah. I went BF on Jugg last night in a turbo game. Won pretty easily but I couldn't tell if it was a good build or the enemy team was just bad.
     
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  34. RonBurgundy

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    I want this patch and new heroes. Haven't played much recently because hoping it is soon
     
  35. Handcuffed

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    i think bfury is really good this patch so i still build it in turbo. wave clear is probably more important in turbo than in regular dota imo so it's almost good just for that over farming neutrals. if maelstrom was better like it was a patch or two ago, then i'd be more willing to pass up bfury.
     
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  36. Handcuffed

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    also, ppd is back and that's exciting for me (even though i don't think his team will be very good

    1 - fear
    2 - dnm (a teenager with high mmr)
    3 - moo
    4 - sneyking
    5 - ppd

    i clipped this myself tonight; it was dope by fear

     
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  37. BrickTamland

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    You won so handily because I’m the GOAT treant.
     
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  38. RonBurgundy

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    Not sold on DNM but would be happy to be wrong.
     
  39. Handcuffed

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    honestly, i've been impressed with him. he doesn't feed too much and seemingly does well in lane. Think he's better than early optic.ccnc.

    Fear doesn't farm as efficiently as other carries.
     
  40. Handcuffed

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    new patch thursday
     
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  41. Name P. Redacted

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    When I play, I play basically only turbo. You don’t really get farming items unless that item is particularly good on that hero.
     
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  42. BrickTamland

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    Like deso on CM? I agree.
     
  43. RonBurgundy

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    Think they’ll make some major changes.

    part of me hopes they make wards expensive again and remove TP slot just to ramp up the difficulty level again and remove bounty runes.

    also add second Roshan like objective that gives buffs
     
  44. Skiddly

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    Hey, how about you go fuck yourself.
     
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  45. RonBurgundy

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    Remember when omniknight had a literal 5 second bkb granting ability and had >60% pub win rate for like 2-3 straight years?

    in retrospect shit was so OP.
     
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  46. skiedfrillet

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    i used to always W someone w/ omni and then try to heal them and they'd end up dying bc i'm dumb and supporting is dumb
     
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