CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : Fuck em, should’ve gotten vaccinated

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  1. BWC

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    Gym analogy is solid
     
  2. Daniel Ocean

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    LA back to stay at home order. This is great.
     
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  3. Eathan Edwards

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    If only someone could have seen this coming.
     
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  5. electronic

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    Fascinating article on the effects of the pandemic on children:

    https://www.thecut.com/2020/11/covid-19-pandemic-kids-mental-health.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

    This quote hit me like a ton of bricks
    How many times can we fail to properly invest in our country before it fails? My god.
     
  6. Eathan Edwards

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    The school systems are laughable at this point, obviously a massive reduction in kids' ability to develop social skills, parents that had decent or good jobs being completely unable to work - can't fathom the net result of this entire situation.
     
  7. kinghill

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    That's what I was thinking. Around where I live in South FL it's been 100% mask usage in retail for months. So how would it be spreading there? It has to be places with groups of people inside without masks right? Big friends/family gatherings. Bars.

    Are there any recent examples of restaurants and gyms spreading it? No masks there, except when you first walk in.
     
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  8. beerme

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    Churches, schools, offices, bars, anywhere you can spend a good amount of time indoors masked or not.
     
  9. kinghill

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    churches = 0, haven't gone in a long time.

    schools = 0, both my kids still doing online school.

    offices = 1, I've been working from home since March. gf still goes into work daily and that concerns both her and I. Her shit company hasn't implemented any specific rules so half don't give a shit about covid just like half the country.

    bars = haven't been to one since early March.
     
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  10. JGator1

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    I think people need to be more specific when saying things like "mask usage here is good/bad/whatever". It's required here in every store I go to but yesterday in Wawa and two days ago in Publix there were people without masks (it's usually 100% at Publix). Even when it's 100% I still see a few people with masks that aren't covering their nose or really loose. I'm sure there's restaurant spreading, people are talking/laughing loudly even when they're sitting 6+ feet apart.
     
  11. kinghill

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    I'll clarify:

    When I'm at the store shopping, everyone I see is wearing a mask. That's where I got my "100%" from.

    Disclaimer: I don't go out often so my experience may not be a good example.
     
  12. pperc

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    I don’t think it’s going to be such a massive hit on social skills long term. We’ll look back and have massively underestimated the resiliency of children.
    I do wonder, what would you have done?
     
  13. pperc

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    That office environment is a major issue country wide
     
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  14. Eathan Edwards

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    Zero idea of the solution - just hate the stories I hear from people I know personally.

    I can assure you I'm not the most educated person on what is the best way to develop positive moral, social, scholastic, and emotional traits.

    We have no idea how it's going to work out - hoping for the best.
     
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  15. kinghill

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    The stories she tells me are nuts. Some people don’t give a fuck. Sign on the Accounting office where she works saying mask required and to leave papers/reports in the bin... Sales/Service folks just walk just in no mask. HR does the same, doesn’t give a fuck. No policies at all.
     
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  16. pperc

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    Keeping bars and restaurants (and other places people go indoors and take masks off) closed is the best way to keep schools open. We chose that instead.
     
  17. dathalfnukkahd

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    Just got back to LA today. Great timing.
     
  18. Jack Bauer

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    The problem is likely with the parents rather than the children. At least in suburbia where resources aren't a major issue.
     
  19. Roy

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    Like the experts say the recommended safety precautions for just existing near someone is for both to have a mask on and be six feet apart. and even that doesn’t guarantee complete safety from transmission.

    So being anywhere near people and talking in doors with or without masks could potentially lead to a transmission. So why don’t we just stop doing that until we can build a national response team that can thorough contact tracing?
     
  20. bwi2

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    I think you’re really underestimating the educational backsliding taking place under virtual learning, particularly for underprivileged communities. Failing grades are up in Fairfax County (largest school district in the DC area, with huge income disparities and a large ESOL populace) by 83% - and that 83% is very unevenly distributed, with rich, well-performing, English speaking students actually doing better than they were before the pandemic, and English learners doing much worse. That’s developmental time that will be exceedingly difficult to make up in our educational system.

    That’s not to say that virtual learning is the wrong answer - I think it is for large school systems - but just because it’s appropriate now doesn’t mean that it’s not a choice with considerable negative side effects. The right answer would have been to take this shit seriously - truly seriously - for two months in March and April and actually rein in the spread. Failing that, we’re left with a set of fucked options until we get a vaccine.
     
  21. electronic

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    A few things could've really helped:

    1) a single consistent coherent message from our governmental leaders based on science to give people confidence in the message
    2) nationwide mask mandate as soon as we had the PPE available for health care workers
    3) nationwide monetary assistance for individuals to allow them to prioritize mental and physical health without stress
    4) full scale mail in election
    5) nationwide eviction moratorium

    Probably a few other things that aren't coming to mind immediately.
     
  22. beerme

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    #5 is a big deal...

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  23. Illinihockey

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    I’m not sure how much a mask mandate would have helped. We’ve had a mask mandate for months and cases are worse than ever in Illinois. That’s not to say masks are wholly ineffective, just that it seems like they aren’t the silver bullet they are sometimes portrayed to be
     
  24. electronic

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    This is a weird ass response.
     
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  25. Illinihockey

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    saying I don’t think a nationwide mask mandate wouldn’t have really helped because it’s not helping in a state that has had one for a very long time is weird?
     
  26. ohbluefan

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    If it’s anything like Ohio, people aren’t wearing them or if they do not correctly.
     
  27. electronic

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    Yes. Is it your position that masks don't really do anything?
     
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  28. Beeds07

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    A lot of black people think this also, so its not just Republicans.
     
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  29. Beeds07

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    He was like this a while back, underselling everything about the pandemic. Saying mask mandates wouldn't be effective because areas half assed mandates is just a blatantly stupid point to make. Stats have shown that areas with enforced mandates saw drops in cases.

    Its like saying wearing seatbelts don't help because you rode in a car without a seat belt once and didn't die.
     
  30. Illinihockey

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    I think they help, n95 masks more than other, but that distancing is what really stops the spread. Everywhere I go, everyone has masks on, pandemic is out of control in Illinois so we’ve had to start closing things down again.
     
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  31. beerme

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    Doesn’t the difference come down to saliva vs airborne transmission? Masks don’t help nearly as much w airborne if they’re not n95s.
     
  32. pperc

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    My comment was strictly on social skills, not educational learning
     
  33. pperc

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    Viruses become aerosolized after evaporation of the droplet. Less droplets in the air, less virus in the air. I think masks will help both.
     
  34. Eathan Edwards

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  35. electronic

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    This is why I said your response was weird.
     
  36. Eathan Edwards

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    #1 was huge:

    The pussifying of wearing masks and distancing and the constant doubt-casting upon the effectiveness resulted in a significant portion of the country not-caring or actively refusing to adhere.

    The lack of #3 and #5 have put people at the desperation point to stop caring.
     
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  38. beerme

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    It’s also just not right. Restaurants have to own all the losses here? Why not make the landlords share some and the fed help some? Make it manageable for most
     
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  39. pperc

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    If the restaurants don’t pay the landlords also take losses. A non functional economy is broadly damaging. I’d rather bail out individuals and not business though.
     
  40. Eathan Edwards

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    Some landlords (my own included) are doing what they can.

    But asking them to eat mortgage payments isn't exactly great either.

    Federal/State government needs to do something if no one is able to operate their businesses.
     
  41. beerme

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    Oh absolutely - banks should shave the mortgages too, why should they be in the clear when places are forced to shut but small businesses get fucked.
     
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  43. slogan119

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    There’s your root cause IMO
     
  44. ~ taylor ~

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    Either give people and businesses enough money to pay their rent/mortgages or force the banks to not keep accumulating monthly payments. Suntrust holds my mortgage currently. They kindly suggested that I can not pay my mortgage for three months and then pay those three months in full at the end of those three months. I'm still working and paying my bills, but if I had been furloughed or let go that wouldn't have helped at all.

    If there was ever a time for the government of the richest country in the history of the world to pick up the check, it is now.
     
  45. Struggler

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    Gov’t will pick up the check when banks come calling. People are going to get fucked. 1/2 this country will say some form of “bootstraps” or “should of paid your bills”.
     
  46. JGator1

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    Goes back to the decision made to live with the virus for the almighty stock market instead of taking decisive measures to beat it.
     
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  47. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    My neighbor's sister has gone off the deep end, she lives in Florida and said something very similar to him about a vaccine. You know the vaccines that TRUMP HIMSELF was trying to take credit for.

    I'm fine with anyone who doesn't want to get vaccinated but then you aren't allowed to take up a hospital bed if you get sick and your kids can't enroll in public school.
     
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  49. Chipper>Jeter

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    I have a living example in my home right now. My youngest has autism and he really struggled initially with the shut down. He was starting to become more social prior to it and we saw some back sliding. Homeschooling was difficult but he developed a daily routine and was able to get back on track.

    He is back in school but its modified and he does not get the resources he normally would. I expected him to get behind and we even discussed the possibility of holding him back. He has missed quite a bit of school with quarantine but hasn't skipped a beat. His teacher told my wife she has kids that are behind in homes that lack resources but the schools are working to address this issue.

    He has straight A's for the first time ever and has built a network of friends he communicates with through games like Roblox. His typing skills are now very good for a kid his age. Adapting to change is a huge barrier for kids with Autism. If he can adapt I'm certain most kids can and are.