Campbell is apparently involved with designing the Saints run game. At this point the key is just nailing the coordinator hires. No idea how that will look.
So much of Campbell being successful relies on him hiring the right coaches. I’m just not sure how that will go. Chances are this will fail, but most coach hires do.
My assumption is Bevell will stick around and the offense will resemble what it did while Bevell was the interim coach. I am going to take a guess that we hire Ryan Nielsen as DC. He’s currently the Saints DL coach but he was being pursued heavily by LSU to be its DC. He has a history of being a RGC in college.
Aaron Glenn is the DB coach in New Orleans and got an interview or two for HC jobs the last few weeks. I could see him being another possible DC (if he wants to be). Campbell has a higher ceiling than the other coaches on the interview list, IMO. He was my favorite candidate after Saleh once they announced the list of guys they would interview. It's kind of hard to ignore that Holmes and Campbell feels very much like "we're hiring the opposite of the Quinn/Patricia duo everyone hated," though, and I really hope that's not what led them to this result (if Campbell is the hire).
I know nothing about dan Campbell, but I like it because it feels like he’ll be awesome or flame out spectacularly. Either outcome would be entertaining.
You mean they're not smug assholes who think they're smarter than everybody else because they worked for the guy who is actually smarter than everybody else? Or just that Quinn was a pro scouting guy and Patricia a defensive guy, while Holmes was a college scouting guy and Campbell is an offensive guy.
The former. They had the Patriot Way with a GM and coach who basically viewed players and employees as numbers, scheme was more important than talent, and no one was allowed to have a personality. Everyone hated them. Now they're hiring guys whose primary strengths appear to be centered around personality, leadership and an ability to connect with people, but both candidates have pretty glaring holes in their resumes that a lot of candidates traditionally have. I like them both. Neither are bad hires. I just hope the reason they're getting hired is because they were truly the best candidates for this job, as opposed to "they're the most different from the guys we just fired."
Was listen to Pat McAfee show when the news broken. Pretty sure they were semi mocking the hire. Down ups until your feet bleed, bring back Oklahoma drill. Back to high school football days. One of the guys said he's the opposite of Patricia and McAfee laughed. Said he is cut from the same tough guy cloth as Patricia. Don't hate it and can't be possible that he'll be a worse coach but was really hoping they would go with a more modern coaching personality.
Speaking at a pep rally called the "Aggie Bonfire" before a game against rival Texas in 1998, Campbell, a senior at the time, made an anti-gay remark in front of about 40,000 students, staff members and alumni, causing outrage from some students and professors, according to a media report at the time. After expressing hatred for the Longhorns, Campbell said he was proud to attend a university where “men like women and women like men.” The irony of an Aggie saying that is rich
At least we're finding out the skeletons in the closet of our coaches before they're hired this time. Progress?
My declaration regarding some of the shit I may have said in college: I was an idiot who was wrong about many, many things, and I'm sorry. Hopefully Dan Campbell feels similarly.
His comment sounds like something that would have been said on Monday Night RAW 23 years ago. He didn't use a slur. Seems ridiculous to me that he should get any questions about that 23 years later, if he hasn't had any other similar situations pop up.
Kind of my thought as well, but don’t know enough about the situation. Shit, been watching rerun episodes of the Office here and there and about 1 line per episode feels like it wouldn’t fly today.
I don't think that comment from that long ago should preclude him from getting this job. I do think it's very relevant to ask and for him to answer, though. Part of sports is wanting to root for the people involved with your team. And that's a quote that gives at least some Lions fans (and others) reasons not to root for him and the team. Addressing it and giving his experiences (assuming he no longer feels that way) about his growth on that kind of stuff is good for him, honestly.
In a vacuum it’s a guy who made a dumb comment as a college kid. Problem is the optics of this coming after the Patricia debacle.
Complete non issue to me. If thats the worst reporter's who are digging into his past can come up with, I'm sure most people on this earth have done or said plenty worse things.
If it means anything to you guys (and it doesn’t), Saleh’s cousin interviewed and hired me at my current place of employment and he’s a dick.
I'm hoping for Glenn, and he's also an A&M guy (don't think he and Campbell played together there, though). I'm all for minority hires at coordinator, but Richard's gotten fired from 2 DC jobs in 2 tries. I'm not terribly sure what would make a third try more successful.
I am wondering if Doug Marrone might be the OC. He and Campbell never coached together, but he was Payton’s OC the two seasons before Campbell arrived in NO. I could see the Payton connection making that happen.
If we're hiring a OL coach he has worked with previously, I'd prefer to try John Benton. He was with Campbell in Miami as OL coach in 2014 and 15. Before/after that, he was Kubiak's OL coach in Houston from 06-13, and is currently Shanahan's guy in SF since 2017. Marrone seems like an asshole from everything I've read.
I would assume Benton would have to be given a promotion to OC to make that happen. Doesn’t seem like that would happen. Marrone is a cunt, but by all accounts, he’s a great OL Coach. I’m not a fan of him calling plays, but I would take an asshole on the OL. Hire Lynn to balance it out.
I meant if we were hiring a OL coach as an OC. If not we should probably just keep Fraley. He's young, really popular with the current OL and seemed to do a pretty good job last year, all things considered.
I think he interviewed with the Bengals. If this drags on much longer, he'd probably have to take an offer from elsewhere just to make sure he has a job. I do think he would be one of the few assistants on the current staff that people with the Lions would vouch for to remain. I would guess Robert Prince (WRs) and maybe Kyle Caskey (RBs) would be in that group, too. From the stuff media has written, all three of those guys are popular among players on the current roster.
Breer The Lions’ hire of Brad Holmes is right along the lines of what they were looking for. We told you a couple weeks ago that Detroit would, first and foremost, be looking for a scouting type to be its new general manager, and would set things up to support that person. That’s where they arrived this week in landing Rams college scouting director Brad Holmes for the job. And in landing Holmes, the Lions really looked at GM Les Snead’s department in L.A., and said, give us that. Detroit liked hearing from Holmes about how the Rams do things differently, mixing analytics and an intellectual way of looking at players with traditional scouting, while seeing that he’d change some things too. In fact, one big moment in the interview came when Holmes was asked by the Detroit brass to go through each of the four GMs and five head coaches he’d worked with, and identify one thing he learned from each of them, and one he didn’t like that he’d do differently than them. One by one, Holmes calmly and logically knocked those out, then gave a cutting, honest assessment of the Lions roster, and a bold plan for what he’d do if he landed the job. And when asked about the hole in his resume—that he lived in Atlanta for a team that was in L.A.—Holmes joked that he may have actually been bordering on California residency, with all the time he was out West during the year to pitch in during vital junctures in the calendar. Add that to Holmes’s involvement in building a playoff roster without a first-round pick the last four years, and the Lions felt pretty good coming out of the first round of interviews about how Holmes would fit in. And how he’ll fit in actually meshes really well with what Holmes is accustomed to. In order to get the GM job closer to a true scouting job, the Lions are putting VP Mike Disner in charge of much of the football-operations end of things, which means Holmes won’t have to worry about managing areas like travel, nutrition, training and equipment. And Disner, Holmes and the new coach (presumably, Saints assistant Dan Campbell) will all report to Lions president Rod Wood. That’ll make Disner’s job description mirror Rams VP Tony Pastoors’s job description, and Holmes’s mirror Snead’s, with Wood in the role of Rams COO Kevin Demoff. 5) Just as Holmes filled the Lions’ desire for a scout as GM, Dan Campbell checks the “leader of men” box Detroit brought into its coaching search. Among those who took up for Campbell with the Lions: Saints coach Sean Payton, Bengals coach Zac Taylor, NFL exec Dawn Aponte and a lot of guys on the Saints roster. Campbell also had the in-house support of a couple people on the scouting side who were in Detroit when Campbell was there as a player. So Taylor is the connection between Campbell and Holmes.