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  1. Bruce Wayne

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  2. Nelson

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  3. TC

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    How could anyone pass Bezos as richest at this point? I thought he made $30 million a second or whatever
     
  4. Nelson

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    tesla has a hiccup, even just a slight one
     
  5. afb

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  6. Nelson

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    Third row option is $3k

    don’t expect anyone over age of 7 to sit back there
     
  7. JGator1

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    Underground tunnels in South Florida (same applies for most of Florida), real galaxy brain stuff

     
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  8. Nelson

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    yikes
     
  9. dblplay1212

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    lol a friend built a basement for his bar. It cost $400k just to pour the foundation. They leveled the building, hammered massive concrete blocks into the ground to keep the water out, then dug the hole for the basement. Without the blocks, it would have been a swamp when they dug.
     
  10. DuffandMuff

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    That’s gotta be one of the dumber things I’ve ever heard.

    Why not build additional space above ground?
     
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  11. dblplay1212

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    Can't have an underground beer cellar above ground.

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  12. DuffandMuff

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  13. dblplay1212

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    Oh na its a huge bar. Started small and then he bought the building next door and built multiple levels to it. One of the biggest beer selections in the country.

    http://www.kickbacksgastropub.com/
     
  14. DuffandMuff

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    Ah yeah I had been there a number of times when I lived in jax. Only recall the room with the tap handles on the ceiling. Monte cristo was a surprisingly delicious drunk food.
     
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  15. dblplay1212

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    Yep, that was the first side. The 2nd side opened maybe 5 years ago.
     
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  16. Nelson

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    Aannnnnnnnd water will still get in
     
  17. dblplay1212

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    The cellar? Idk maybe. It's not far from the river and we've had a few hurricanes and tropical storms come through and it's held up so far. It has a full concrete perimeter. But yea building underground tunnels over long stretches doesn't seem like it would work.
     
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  19. BP

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    Can someone explain what this is like Im 3. What are regulatory credits?
     
  20. dblplay1212

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  21. dblplay1212

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    Through having an all-electric lineup, Tesla amasses regulatory credits from various sources around the world. The credits are given out to automakers based on the vehicles they sell; in some areas, credits are given out based on the number of electric vehicles an automaker sells, and in others, it is based on the emissions that come from the vehicles sold.

    The Zero Emissions Vehicle (ZEV) program is one such source; the program is a California regulation which mandates that automakers must sell a certain number of electric vehicles relative to their total sales. There are ten other states in the U.S. that have adopted the measure. If an automaker ends the year without sufficient credits, they’re fined – that is unless they buy them from a company such as Tesla.

    The federal government’s system for regulatory credits will change beginning for the 2021 model year as the Safer Affordable Fuel-Efficient (SAFE) emissions regulations come into place. Nonetheless, up until the new regulations come into play, automakers have received emissions credits from both the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)—the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards—and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)—the Greenhouse Gas Emissions (GHG) standards—depending on the fuel efficiency of vehicles.
     
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  22. NineteenNine

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    So, uh, where is the rest of the steering wheel?

     
  23. SD_Irish

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    Yeah. Not a fan.
     
  24. Clemson327

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    They really went full spaceship there.
     
  25. TheFreak55

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    When you buy one do you get a charger? Or is that an additional fee?
     
  26. REGGNECK

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    You get the charging cable and super chargers have their own .
     
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  27. Where Eagles Dare

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    Pretty sure you have to buy a charger for your house or you can slow charge out of a normal outlet. I think I've seen they are about a grand, all included.

    Weird tidbit, building code in Atlanta has all new garages have to have an outlet wired for electrical cars. Learned that last spring house hunting.
     
  28. REGGNECK

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    220/240 whatever it takes ...
     
  29. Russellin4885

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    cheapest charging route is just to go with the 50 amp charging. Outlet and breaker are about $40 in material. I do all my own electrical work but would think you can get an electrician to wire it up for under $500 if it's not too complicated.

    It's not quite as fast as a wall charger but those thing's are $500 on their own.
     
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  30. Clemson327

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    You get a charger with a standard 120v plug, but you can buy different 240v plugs from Tesla for the included charger to charge at a rate up to 7.7 kW. The plug adapter is only $35 or so.
     
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  31. dblplay1212

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    Not a good day for Elon.





     
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  32. billdozer

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    Tesla up almost 4%
     
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  33. Gallant Knight

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    Elon on one of his coke binges and decides to manipulate doge coin tonight via his Twitter account.

    from this



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    Good for him, I have Doge.
     
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  35. afb

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  36. Gallant Knight

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    this is so fucking stupid
     
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  37. afb

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    why is it stupid to incentivize people to buy zero emission cars
     
  38. Nelson

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    DOGE TO A DIME LETS GOOOOOOOO
     
  39. Gallant Knight

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    Why should money be used to help rich people buy luxury vehicles?
     
  40. REGGNECK

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  41. afb

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    because the goal is to have more zero emission cars
     
  42. dblplay1212

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    Yea im totally ok with giving people an incentive to buy electric. I don't care if it's a 100k Tesla or a 20k Chevy. Less money to oil and coal, more money to renewable.
     
  43. Gallant Knight

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    Y’all do know how electricity is made right?
     
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  44. Bruce Wayne

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    Please don't Bors Comic this
     
  45. Where Eagles Dare

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    wind

    thx
     
  46. Where Eagles Dare

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    You do realize they go towards any electric vehicle, right?
     
  47. afb

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    1.


    2. you conveniently aren't replying about zero emission vehicles

    you'd be best to just stop
     
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  48. Russellin4885

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    Sure, but this would be ignoring the fact that electric vehicles use energy much more efficiently than ICE vehicles. I believe that we will eventually transition to mostly electric vehicles and the quicker we can get there the better, so I'm all in on tax credits to help with that.

    It'll be interesting to see how this effects Tesla's sales this year as it wouldn't be surprising to see people waiting to buy for this program.
     
  49. Nelson

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    1. If you’re going to do incentives (whether you agree or not), it’s inefficient to cap. It encourages purchases of less efficient/appealing vehicles. Competition should be level between the manufacturers.

    2. I would rather direct federal spending towards incentivizing building charging network deployment. Certainly to the degree that the original gas vehicle manufacturers received with gas stations in the 20th century.