Its good, but not worth the hype. Wait for it to go on sale/for mods to come out. with mods i think it might be an elite game.
I farmed a six minute midas as void against a duo offlane. My mid ursa fed 7 kills in the first 11 minutes and we were down 30k gold at 25 minutes. "no hc gg izi"
I've won 16 of last 19. after losing those 2 I'm on a 4 game winning streak again. https://www.dotabuff.com/players/112963446/matches 3470 mmr, I've never hit 3500 I don't think
i just lost two more games in a row where i was the highest xpm/gpm in the game as well as the highest damage. I won all three lanes as offlane sniper and we still lost our sf lost mid to a troll.
classic 65 minute turbo match https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5781667715 zeus (me) + kotl/kunkka (wave clear) + warlock (ult combos) vs. sniper/techies. we lost because we had no real carry as our riki was dogshit (no bkb, for example) but octarine + arcane blink = ridiculous on this hero. i had so many ults + aghs spells and even sometimes had kotl give me the cooldown help. 160k damage.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5787099392 just a dumb turbo but a hard carry 4v5 as medusa wk abandoned early in the game after saying he heard gunshots :/
Dota is never over until the end. My invoker was 6 levels under their mid morph (SIX FUCKING LEVELS) and we came back and won down 2 rax. That win probability swing tho. 20K networth comeback
i think the most fun hero to play right now is Shadow Fiend and rushing Arcane Blink. I saw Gunnar play it yesterday where he just chased an AM around for 30 minutes. The 50% reduction on cast point means you can almost always get your ult off so you blink in and do massive aoe damage + aoe fear. Super fun. i just played it in turbo and went Arcane Blink > BKB > BoTs > Eblade and it was great. Could probably go Euls first and then finish with the Euls upgrade after BoTs if it were played in a real game or something slightly more competitive.
I can't play SF because I whiff on razes every fucking time. BTW, I know Nyx is pretty strong as a 4, but BH is in a really, really good spot right now as a 4 as his shard seems super good.
not a single regular (or ranked) match but i'll take 13 wins in a row. all on different heroes, too. sort of makes me want to get back into ranked to see my current mmr...
i just realized i went 0/9 in that game. rofl. was too busy watching the end of the blazers game + the aoc stream.
i dipped my feet into ranked again and it's frustrating as hell game 1: dominate mid (vs zeus). we are up huge in this game and despite getting 3 aegises we can't go up hill. wk no blink. neither viper nor lion (who goes eblade + aghs build ofc) do anything. check gyro's items. hour-long misery. Spoiler game 2: we actually won (in 50 min - frustrating length) but i again did really well mid (though enemy WR ganked other lanes sometimes with runes). but bounty hunter goes carry build despite us already having jugg and luna. jugg finishes bfury at around 28 min. bounty finished his around 36 min. bounty did 8k damage. we had perfect gank squad with bh, axe, and me and i literally had nothing to do and let jugg/luna farm. as a team, we had 1.5k creeps. and were fortunate the enemy WK and PL were garbage or this was an easy loss. Spoiler game 3: dominate mid (vs zeus, so easy matchup) and at one point I've ganked in all 3 lanes. took mid tower and was 6-2. DK goes Heart first item, finishes it at 28 min iirc. Lesh goes BoTs first item, skips euls, and finishes bloodstone at 36 min. ck, zeus, and luna focus me exclusively and we get run over. Spoiler anyways, i just don't think these games are winnable unless i get a 1v9 hero. and i get super bored playing the same hero over and over but i don't think i can consistency win unless i play mid and play a tower-hitting hard carry. i foresee a lot of PL, Jugg, WK in my life if i want to keep playing these ranked games and that sucks.
I’m just starting to understand how ridiculously strong Juggernaut is in the current state of the game. Spin seems to be due for a damage nerf, or maybe cut his movement speed down, or idk how come my team’s Jugg is never good at this hero but the other team’s Jugg is always good with this hero?
He’s also not OP at the pro level though. you can either go MoM/BF/Aghs, Or maelstrom/manta/diffusal and right click damage build or you can get shard and swift blink and his spin is OP. So incredibly versatile. Has team sustain with the healing ward and can do a ton of damage. Fun carry to play. Very unlike FV which is dumpster tier carry with Sven.
Also I think WD is super strong right now. The key is to hit your timings early. Level 3 with cask and level 2 maledict is almost an instant kill if your carry isn’t brain dead. also kotl with his new slow ability that lowers magic resist + Jugg spin is an instant kill on the offlaner for the first 6 minutes.
BoT seem to be a must given his built-in BKB. Split push and spin/BoT out if you get in trouble, be split pushing then BoT into a fight...
i saw gunnar testing out disruptor w/ shard + ogre w/ bloodlust + batrider w/ swift blink, bots, and drums or w/e anyways, you can lasso people from basically river to t3s if you get those speed buffs. super hilarious.
got absolutely destroyed in a match earlier this evening by an ogre mid https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5846092135 made me think of BrickTamland the entire 15 min when we were getting wrecked
I want to look at that build more, Handcuffed and specifically the order he built. I see he went Midas, but vanguard and radiance... seems to be built around surviving slark and jugg burst damage?
Also, I’m reconsidering whether or not Midas is good in turbo. RonBurgundy is right that the CD isn’t reduced, games are much shorter, and it’s the same price as an item with more game impact (aether lens or BoT.) BUT, creeps are worth so much more gold in turbo that I think it is a no-brainer.
Think I’m doing: Boots and a mango to start Courier out two more mangos and a stick Midas Wand, Arcane into aether Aghs BoT Everything else
I see some pros in pubs and even pro matches going first item stick even in non-traditional stick lanes since mangos, and since all other items like sage’s mask, ring of regen, etc all got nerfed. I’m also seeing fewer and fewer bracers and instead just casual fluffy hats (which are OP rn) and no wraith bands, instead rushing Orb of corrosions. null still common
I used to love playing ogre starting with a couple mangos. You had like 7 health regen and would just out trade everyone.
it obviously depends on the game state, but i build Midas on Ogre, Arc Warden, Slark, and Sniper in Turbo. Keep in mind I play mid whenever I can so that affects farming speed. I think Sniper and Slark both feel really good with the extra gold/xp and the attack speed really helps them. I don't go Midas 100% of the time but it feels good when I do build it (whereas i don't like it on OD and some other heroes I've tried). I've built it just once on Silencer and it didn't work. I think Orb of Corrosion is a waste of gold in Turbo, at least as a carry. I'd rather have that 1K gold+ towards blink, maestrom, or whatever else. Laning stage is just too short to get full value. I have mostly stopped building a lot of nulls except perhaps on Drow. I still usually buy a Circlet. I think Bracers are good for everyone (and Gunnar builds them on many agi heroes, including Morph) because of the regen/health. I tried Skywrath recently and tried skipping Nulls and it felt AWFUL.
Just played my first game with ogre picking up midas... took forever to get a midas up with boots and a stick. May want to try it a few more times, see if a null talisman or arcanes fills that gap.