Ah, yes - studio executives are known for their inability to meddle in giant tent pole films or demand changes. I’m sure the Snydercut will be an absolute masterpiece.
Joss was able to make Avengers work because the groundwork for the core trio (and Hulk) had already been laid. He wisely devoted time to reintroduce Black Widow and made Hawkeye a henchman for the first half, giving everyone something to do and focusing the first hour on quips and fights between the group. Avengers is, at its core, a remarkably simple story, one that felt like a season finale where all the plotlines from Iron Man, Cap, and Thor's movies all came together. It was maybe his best work since the final three episodes of Buffy's third season. It didn't work on Justice League because that never felt like the culmination of anything. Joss had no foundation to build on. He had Man of Steel, BvS, and Wonder Woman, that's it. He had Batman, Wonder Woman, and a dead Superman, three heroes to introduce, and a villain with no personality. It didn't feel like the conclusion of anything; it felt like the beginning due to so many new characters thrown out there, despite it needing to feel (from the audience's perspective) like a culmination, because that's what you expect with a big team up movie. Also the quippy dialogue which made Joss famous (seriously, Buffy is so beloved because the dialogue and interplay between Buffy, Willow, Xander, Spike, and Giles is so darn hilarious) didn't fit the universe Zack had built, which was grandiose, overly theatrical, and melodramatic. It worked like gangbusters in Avengers because that was the tone established by the franchise's most popular player at the time, Iron Man. Nothing about Justice League worked, even setting aside Henry Cavill's PS3-era upper lip. The best thing the Snyder cut has going for it (maybe the only thing) is that it'll feel like a proper follow-up to Man of Steel and BvS, making those three a cohesive unit. Whether that matters or not depends on if the movie works. If it does, yeah sure give Zack another 200 million and let him make a Justice League vs Darkseid movie. If not, well at least his fans will have a trilogy of sepia-toned sadness to hang their hats on.
Yeah I don't have a problem with him showing up, it's the choices made about the character's portrayal that don't grip me
The Snyder cut also has 2-3 years of knowledge of what everyone hated. If it's not better simply with that knowledge I don't know what we're doing here.
If your expectations are to laugh at just how bad it is then yes. the CGI they did to Cavill's face is just so bad
Please do and report back. The original is dog shit and no matter what the Snyder Cut is, it will be a million times better.
If this is Snyder’s going away gift, great. But if this is his foothold back into the DC universe, DC/WB is fucked.
If only there was a way, maybe a story, that could allow WB to reset the timeline in a beneficial way. Oh well
Finally watching WW84, has anyone else commented on the fact that Pedro Pascal fucking rocked the shit out of this movie?
Finally connected my Prime to get HBO Max, on ep 3 of Doom Patrol and enjoying it. Really similar feel to Umbrella Academy.
I can not believe they're going to let Cavill go. Literally the one thing every DC fan agrees on about the post-Nolan movies.
I wonder if the biggest problem with the DCEU movies has been the lack of a compelling villain. Here's the trinity side by side with their arch-nemeses: It's crazy how good the casting and execution was for the heroes, but the villains were just one hot mess after another.
Cavill is a great Superman. He was just written terribly. Wonder Woman had the personality Superman is supposed to embody. He wouldn’t leave anyone behind like WW refused to do during the No Man’s Land scene.
There's nothing more on brand for Hollywood than responding to Zack Snyder putting together a jumbled mess of a franchise that sucks than rebooting it with JJ Abrams.
What’s the top film for each? MI3 and 300? Mild take I’d say, I think Abrams is probably above but it’s not like it’s by a crazy margin.
Abrams can do an intro/reboot movie and a one off just fine. It's his follow-ups and long term storytelling that are terrible. Snyder's entire reputation seems to be based on 300 being kind of groundbreaking/entertaining and having 4 hour director's cuts that come out a year after the disappointing theatrical release. Both are overrated af and I don't understand why they keep being given flagship properties.