*Now the Official Jobs Thread* by popular demand

Nice job! Yeah I mean I can see either way or point of thinking. Point is people are judge mental when it comes to shit like that. Appearance is an easy box to check IMO.

 

Just depends on where you are. I’d imagine my experience in the PNW, is a lot different than east coast or the South.

 

Generational as well. Worked in a shared space for a bit and there was a digital marketing/SEO firm run by some 20/30 year olds. The shit those fuckers wore to business meetings was absolutely hilarious. Their websites and campaigns were beautiful though.

 

Also I worked in D3 athletics for around 13 years. If I wore a t-shirt and athletic shorts to work it was fine. Wearing pants to work is dressing up for the standard I grew up in.

 

Jeans and a TShirt is still at least 5x more professional than joggers and a hoodie.

 

My joggers do have the company name on it though, and I have a t-shirt under the hoodie. It just gets cold in the main lobby in the morning so I always on a jacket or a hoodie or something

 

Alright I'm pretty damn sure I'm getting this job.

 

Salary question here: I’ve had a discussion with a company and expect to have another, so want to be prepared for the salary question. I know it all comes down to what I personally will accept, but looking for help with common ranges.

If I’m a product manager now and would be a senior product manager at the new company, what sort of a bump between those two is within reason? Google ranges are huge, but best I can narrow it down maybe 12-15k more?

edit: new job would be remote and I do not live in a big city now, so not much adjusting for location

 

Link them to your tmb profile

 

Do they know your current salary?

Have they discussed ranges at all during the interview process?

 

Nothing yet. All we had so far was an introductory, get-to-know-you type call. It was a LinkedIn posting but didn’t have any salary ranges listed, and it’s a small company so glassdoor and others are of no help.

 

Invite your brother to TMB, Shawn.

 

Nandor the Relentless so you don’t own anything but sweatpants? That’s incredible.

 

No he’d belong in the shitpit

 

I own about 15 pairs of slacks, not even counting the ones I have set aside to wear exclusively when dressing up for formal occasions like weddings, funerals, etc.

 

Actually now that I think about it, it’s probably closer to 20.

 

Thanks for clarifying. Fifteen seemed light, but 20 feels about right.

 

Joggers*

 

Live look at Shawn showing off the differences in his attire for summer, jungle, winter and formal.

 

Got another medical office associate interview lined up here at my current worksite, this time in a different department.

Seems we have a good ole fashion recruiting war going on for my services

 

Everything is coming up Millhouse Shawn.

 

Let them fight

 

Any of you guys ever worked in sports? Got an offer to be the GM of Coporate Partnerships at a small University. I'd have to be at/work all home football and men's basketball games. I'm worried that would get old quickly and I'd get burntout and frustrated. Anyone worked in a similar role or had to do something like that? If so, any advice/feedback?

 

Nandor the Relentless

 

I didn’t have a similar role but I worked home games nights and weekends year round as part of my jo . After putting in 50-60+ hours a week for over a decade I got burnt out on it. I still like parts of the job, so I work 2-3 games a week on the side at a local college to satisfy my fix. There’s no way I’ll ever go back into the field full-time again unless I’m desperate.

It wouldn’t have been as bad if I could have worked less office hours but got to put in the hours to get the job.

I’d ask about what the work-life balance is what the expectations are for your normal 9-5 work. If they are fine with you taking off early on Fridays or whatever to make up for working a Saturday football game then it shouldn’t be too bad.

 

MG2

 

Got the job I interviewed for twice. Now I just have to wait for HR to contact me to find out all the details.

 

how much u gettin paid

 

I hope it’s not in candy corn or he’ll starve.

 

I just said I have to wait on HR to contact me for all the details. I’m not expecting much because it’s entry level, but got to start somewhere and it’s full-time non-temp with some nice benefits. I only know what the benefits are because they have a benefits guide posted online with all the details

 

Are you going to seal the deal this time with your officemate?

 

Congrats on the job. But my dude, how do you take a position not knowing the compensation?

That's a 1st interview question

 

Shawn are you continuing your graphic design career?

 

No

 

I’m on a temp job. I don’t have a whole lot of room to be picky. But I haven’t accepted it yet anyways. I still got to negotiate with HR on this.

And the people conducting the interview said they don’t know what it is anyways as HR doesn’t disclose that information until they contact a person with an official offer.

 

It never technically ended. But this isn’t going to be a graphic design job.

 

So you’re saying graphic design is your passion.

 

It’s not being picky, it’s being more informed. You’re likely correct that it’s better comp than what you’re getting now, but that’s not the point.

In the future, ask what the compensation plan is early in the process. It shows you’re a serious candidate that won’t take just whatever they’re offering, some initiation ect. Don’t look at it as it being a crass or impolite question.

 

I just said they told me they don’t know what it is. HR basically operates like compensation is top secret knowledge only to be divulged when someone is offered a job.

 

There's no need to be defensive. Im not trying to dunk on you here, Im trying to give good advice.

If the interviewer doesnt know the comp, or any question you ask for that matter, it's a perfectly reasonable expectation to have them find and provide that info. Its awesome you landed this job, and im happy for you. Just some things to consider the next time you interview.

 

I wear shorts and a polo shirt to office everyday. After 10 years of suit and tie I am loving every minute of it.

 

Had an internal recruiter reach out to me on LinkedIn for a position with her company. I said I’d interview because it never hurts to see your value.

Very next day I get an email with a personality test and a request for five references, two being managers. Seemed like a lot of references. I had to enter all their info and a system shoots out a survey to the references.

 

Same. Putting long pants back on if and when that happens will be tough.

 

Email her back and tell her you are offer-only talent.

 

I’d like five references from current and former employees in my hiring division.

 

After starting my own business and wearing a t-shirt and basketball shorts all day, there’s no way I can ever get a real job again.

 

I used to wear a tie to the office everyday. When covid started to get serious back in like April-June I closed the lobby to walk in business. No point in wearing a tie anymore. Just wear my new balances, jeans, and work polo. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to a tie.

 

I don’t think anyone but attorneys and bankers will.

 

and management consultants :/

 

I haven't worn a suit or tie & slacks for 5 years and it's been wonderful.