When the director of the CDC says something that affects national policy, I think it would have some affect, yeah. Not immediately, but I wouldn't expect it to be shrugged off. Maybe that's shocking to you.
shrugged off? no one shrugged anything off. you are the one shocked public policy hasn't changed in 48 hours. the director is finally telling people that 1. we have data and 2. you can go do stuff if you get the vaccine. Finally coherent messaging from our federal government based on actual data (albeit sparse so far).
I was actually talking about forming public policy moving forward, not about making immediate changes.
Fair. You did say by summer. But again, spread of infection, hospitalization rates, etc. is what should dictate that policy. If the vaccine works as early data is suggesting (based on strains currently prominent), by summer those infection rates should be incredibly low. I know it sounds like semantics, but it's not.
Scientists and medical professionals: “the vaccine is an incredible tool in the fight against COVID but to help control the spread of variants and until over 70% of the population is vaccinated we need everyone to continue wearing a mask in public.” Some asshole with a business degree and internet access: “I disagree, and will now assemble my argument while ignoring any studies that contradict my position”
Do we even hit 70% of all people getting the vaccine ever? I'm sure I sound like a broken record, but I just have no hope that the many of the southern states are going to require vaccinations for anything.
Yes, standard pediatric vaccines are high but this is very different and undoubtedly people are going to see it akin to a voluntary flu-shot if they aren't forced to get one. I've just been very displeased we haven't seen many leagues or airline companies say they will soon mandate it by the fall.
A manufacturer I work for got the local health department to do a Johnson and Johnson vaccine day at the plant, they have 500 blue collar employees only 28% signed up, so the CEO offered $250 to anyone who got the shot. Registration is now at 94% tie the stimmy to shots
this is a perfect real world example of what I believe to be true. 5-10% are truly anti-vax. The rest just don’t care/lazy or will get it the second they get minority inconvenienced/offered an incentive to get it.
my mother is the only hold out right now in our family. everyone is badgering her about it. sometime over this summer, my wife and i are going to sit her down and tell her that unless she gets the vaccine by august, she will not get to be around her granddaughter that we will be having late august. it seems a bit drastic i guess but she has bad asthma and needs to get it. she'll cave then
Ours is paying for you to go get the shot during work hours + $100/bonus to anyone who gets the shot.
“I don’t know what’s in that thing, I don’t want that foreign substance in me!” “$250?!?!? Oh hell yes gimme that needle!”
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.html Spoiler: IYI https://www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2021/03/25/advil-tylenol-covid-19-vaccine If you’re looking to relieve symptoms after your shot, he added, acetaminophen (Tylenol) is better because it works in a different way than some other painkillers. “If you have a reaction afterwards and need something, take some acetaminophen,” Schaffner agreed. He added that the immune response generated by the vaccines is strong enough that any dampening effect by painkillers is likely slight and won’t undermine the shots.
Are 15 million vaccines really ruined over human error like this and they have to start from scratch?
Buddy 10% of the economy on hold for a week or a minuscule 15 million people vaccinated, your priorities are backwards.
it is very surprising it’s harder to get an appointment in a metro area with 10 million people than it is in rural cities 1/100th the size
i posted the recipe yesterday and pperc got all big boy science on me and said it wasn’t a big deal well guess whose craft room is about net him tens of dollars
yea it’s silly but at the same time kinda sad $250 has that sort of impact on a working class person’s material conditions
Oh for sure. My comment was more for those who are seemingly steadfast against the vaccine for “health reasons” and then quickly change their mind when a few bucks is offered up. Not exactly rock solid in the principles there.
This was me. Joined team Moderna yesterday but had to drive an hour out of Columbus into Gym Jordan’s shitty district to get it. Not surprising to come across this gem of a property Spoiler
Things like this will make people who aren't hard liners, but don't think they need it, get vaccinated I agree with RavenNole the actual number of true anti vax is probably ~10%
20 hours post Pfizer #2 and I'm still feeling good. Had some light chills this morning, but not sure if they were Pfizer or douche related.
Right. I'm saying that there's a much larger group of hesitant (? Right word) people than those who just no matter what wont ever get it. People will get a shot if it means they can travel without quarantine or paying for tests
Definitely not until it's approved for kids and public schools add it onto the list. We've been telling healthcare clients with hesitant workforces - people who should know better - to pay their employees a couple hundred bucks to get it. It'll need to be that or we'll be fighting variants forever.
Public schools don't require flu shots and like I said I'll be very shocked if many of them in most of the Red states mandate it.