Realignment: The ACC enters the Suck Zone

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  1. Fran Tarkenton

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    Seems like they forgot to site State Laws or Case Law that would summarily defend their position

     
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  2. jokewood

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    I'd like to be the first poster to welcome BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, Purdue, Memphis, Tulsa, UCF, and USF to the new Big 12.
     
  3. gowolverines8

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    ku adds no value, b1g probably throws a hail mary and attempts to poach some acc schools
     
  4. Pharm

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    we volunteer as tribute
     
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  6. xec

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    This guy…. If it was Okie State and Iowa State he would be singing a different tune.
     
  7. southlick

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  9. Tex

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    They have veto power!
     
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  10. wes tegg

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    No one is going to vote against it because Ross Bjork is such a chode. Congrats, Aggie

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    Ed O and Ross Bjork having more success after their stint in Oxford
     
  12. DUCKMOUTH

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    We seem to be arguing over the OU and OKstate thing and according to this it’s not a law.(which seemed like BS anyway). Basically reads that’s the Governors decision in the end

    https://www.crimsonandcreammachine....homa-and-oklahoma-state-really-a-package-deal

    So is OU really a package deal with OSU?

    Well, first off, is there a LEGAL requirement? No…it is not in the Oklahoma State Constitution, which I’ve actually spent time looking at when I was arguing last year that OU and OSU HAD to stay together….Teaches me to parrot crap from WWLS radio. I would assume there is no statue if it’s not in the Constitution.

    What is in the Oklahoma Constitution is how the Oklahoma Higher Education Systems are set up. Oklahoma State has its own systemwhich has it a "Board of Regents". This system includes: All the Oklahoma State Universities and branches, Conner’s State, NE A&M, Langston, and Panhandle State.

    The University of Oklahoma is in a separate system that consists of OU and its branches OU-Health Sciences and OU-Tulsa, Cameron State, and Rogers State. Each school has its own President, but with one "Board of Regents"

    Both systems then report to and are governed by "The Oklahoma State Board of Regents for Higher Education" The Oklahoma State Regents for Higher Education is the statewide coordinating board of control for the state's colleges and universities, nine constituent agencies and two higher education programs.(for the record there is a third system, and that is of the directional schools)

    The Board of Regents for Higher Education though is only for matter of education, not athletics. They have little or no say as to what conference a University joins for Athletics. The members of this board are also members of OSU’s Regents and OU’s Regents, for the most part (though not all)

    In Oklahoma, the Board of Regents are appointed by the Governor of the State of Oklahoma, and they get to serve as long as they want. Being a Regent in Oklahoma isn’t a full time job, and I don’t think they get paid. Most are wealthy and successful businessmen that love their schools.

    Wow…that was boring…but the point to understand is OU and OSU are in two separate systems. What one does is not governed by the other. They are completely separate!

    But, the final member, and the final authorizing authority over both boards is the Governor. It’s his/her responsibility that the schools are acting in the best interest of the people of the state, and that includes the other school’s system. Since he/she appoints the BOR he can have them replaced. The Governor has final veto.

    The Educational systems do not go to or answer to the Oklahoma State Senate or State Congress. The only control the legislature has is funding and budget approvals as submitted by the Governor from the Board of Regents.

    So, the only LEGAL tie the 2 schools have is through the Governor. That’s it…no more, no less. The Governor would have to decide if one school left for an athletic conference and left the other behind if that was beneficial to the state and to the citizens…that’s it. I would think it would be a hard decision for a Governor to veto something that was approved and deliberated over by a Board that he/she appointed to do that very job.

    So, where is OU and OSU tied? It’s more culturally and family ties than anything else. OU’s President David Boren while Governor established OSU’s fine veterinary school, which is still named after him. OSU’s President Burns Hargis got his law degree from OU. Mrs. Molly Boren also went to school at OSU.

    Those are some tight family ties….but that’s the ONLY thing that ties OU to OSU….tight family ties.
     
  13. I<3privatedances

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    Pur doo doo is as B1G as it gets!

    BYU, Cincy, Houston, Memphis and UCF would be good additions to go with Iowa St, K State, Okie state, WVU, Baylor, TTU and TCU.

    No blue bloods but there are top 25 teams in that group and it would solidify itself as a P5 conference that would nip at the Pac 12's heels.
     
  14. Nostradumass

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    Shook
     
  15. jokewood

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    I'd rather not speculate about the closeness of family ties in the state of Oklahoma.
     
  16. wes tegg

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    Orgeron, sure. Bjork, not really. Which is pathetic.
     
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  17. fsugrad99

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  18. dump

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    we need your votes USC and UF
     
  19. NineteenNine

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    Gross. I’d rather be in the mountain west.
     
  20. wes tegg

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  21. Gallant Knight

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    Oklahoma state?
     
  22. killerwvu

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    :pray: the ACC comes calling
     
  23. Truman

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  24. dome foam

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    Bjork's statement is the most Aggie thing ever. Show your ass in public and then lose the vote and show how you pull no weight in the conference.
     
  25. wes tegg

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    That guy loves fucking with Texas fans.
     
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  26. dump

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    I’d allow OU and OSU in and leave Texas out
     
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  27. Gallant Knight

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    I would allow Texas OU and OSU and kick out aggy
     
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  28. dump

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    You would kick out a team that Arky is 0-9 against
     
  29. I<3privatedances

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    KU's only hope is BB and the KC market will save us.
     
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  30. Taques

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    scared of the meat judging dynasty seen it a million times :roll:
     
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  31. bertwing

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    Have fun with Baylor, TCU, and devine :roll:
     
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  32. Blu Tang Clan

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    I could see Arkansas being a no, too. No love lost between the Hogs and Horns.
     
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  33. steamengine

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    BYU, Cincy, Houston, Memphis, and UCF have all done more than Texas in football over the last decade.

    What I’m saying is this is objectively an upgrade.
     
  34. Taques

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    will do!
     
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  35. fsugrad99

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    LSU too tbh

    If this doesn't go through on the SEC side, the ACC needs to get their shit together and make this happen. Invite Okie State and Tech too to make it easier politically. Hell, go to 20 if we need to. Notre Dame is never happening.
     
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  37. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    Man it's fun to see dump in a fully melty.
     
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  38. dump

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    Am I?
     
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  39. Blu Tang Clan

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    I think it’s all just whatever at this point. It’s an arms race for cash and as a fan/alum it really doesn’t move the needle. Cash vs. grievances vs. ego.
     
  40. Fran Tarkenton

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    where would yall stand
     
  41. bertwing

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    I’ve heard we would be fine with it. We aren’t shit in football and it wouldn’t affect us negatively in basketball or baseball.
     
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  42. ned's head

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    I can see why these two schools would like to preserve the historical sanctity of the conference
     
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    "We'll do what's best for us but we're gravely disappointed that OU may be exploring what's best for them."
     
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  47. NineteenNine

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  49. dump

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