Realignment: The ACC enters the Suck Zone

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  1. GoodForAnother

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    history has no meaning here which is why


     
  2. jokewood

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    Stanford, Cal, UCLA, Washington, and USC are a relatively easy way to get B1G presidents on board with radical change. Much easier than Clemson, Florida State, and Miami.
     
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  3. steamengine

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    Man, you Oregon ppl sure are snooty
     
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  4. killerwvu

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    Bring back the original conferences from early 2000s. Nothing was better than starting the week off the top teams in the old Big East playing a Thurs night game
     
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  5. steamengine

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    Because the West Coast is about half made up of second gen privilege boyz whose parents went to Wisconsin or Michigan then left the shorty Midwest and they’ve always fetishized some sort of alliance. That’s why the rose bowl exists in the first place.
     
  6. gowolverines8

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    old conferences were cool for non football sports but for football super conferences are more fun
     
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  7. duc15

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    how is a 20 team conference fun?
     
  8. dblplay1212

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    The NFC is fun.
     
  9. wes tegg

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    How is it not? Honestly, why does it matter?
     
  10. killerwvu

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    I thought going to the Big12 would be fun. Sure, the league is better than we were in but

    1. No rivalries. Yea VT, Pitt, and UL aren't any better than the middle of the Big12 but it's more fun to play your rivals

    2. Travel is awful. No team is within driving distance. ISU is the closest at like 900 miles. Huggs bitches about it all the time. Bball will play at 9pm est game at say TCU. By the time the game ends, media availability, airport and flight, team doesn't get back til 3 or 4 am. Also limits the amount of away fans we have at games
     
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  11. dblplay1212

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    A 32 team conference with all the major teams would be amazing. No more Bama vs Mercer. Every game would be vs top 32 teams. No more -58 spreads. 16 solid to amazing games every week. Rotate schedules like NFL but play teams in your division once instead of twice.
     
  12. duc15

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    because I went to a school that is very easily left out of all this
     
  13. VaxRule

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    Need 64 schools just so you can sell a basketball tournament.
     
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  14. 2

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    No more -58? Nebraska is already B1G and hear to stay lol
     
  15. gowolverines8

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    Forces more conference games and new matchups every year. I just dont buy that regional games like michigan-indiana, usc-arizona ohio state-illinois are that important to cfb. Most schools only have 1-2 games on their schedule they really want to/need to play a year and those games still get maintained for the most part(at least for the top tier schools).
     
  16. killerwvu

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    There's nothing stopping Bama from not scheduling Mercer
     
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  17. GoodForAnother

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    people forget there is currently no rule that says you have to play Mercer
     
  18. Odin

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    sec and big ten absorb anyone and everyone who have anything at all to offer. then the pac panic and add anyone they can.


    SEC

    Alabama
    Arkansas
    Auburn
    Baylor
    Clemson
    Duke
    Florida
    Florida St
    Georgia
    Georgia Tech
    Houston
    Kentucky
    Louisville
    LSU
    Memphis
    Miami
    Miss
    Miss St
    Missouri
    MTSU
    NC St
    North Carolina
    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma St
    South Carolina
    SMU
    TCU
    Texas
    Texas A&M
    Texas Tech
    UCF
    Vanderbilt


    Big "Ten"

    Army
    Ball St
    Boston College
    Cincinnati
    Illinois
    Indiana
    Iowa
    Kansas
    Kansas St
    Maryland
    Michigan
    Michigan St
    Minnesota
    Navy
    Nebraska
    Northwestern
    Notre Dame
    Ohio State
    Penn St
    Pittsburgh
    Purdue
    Rutgers
    Syracuse
    Temple
    Virginia
    Virginia Tech
    West Virginia
    Wisconsin


    Pac 26

    Air Force
    Arizona
    Arizona St
    Boise St
    BYU
    Cal
    Colorado
    Colorado St
    Fresno St
    Hawaii
    NDSU
    Nevada
    New Mexico
    New Mexico St
    Oregon
    Oregon St
    San Diego St
    Stanford
    Washington
    Washington St
    Wyoming
    UCLA
    UNLV
    USC
    Utah
    Utah St
     
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  19. dblplay1212

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    Bama
    Lsu
    Auburn
    Uga
    Uf
    Tennessee
    Ole Miss
    Miss st
    south carolina
    A&m
    Ou
    Okie st
    Texas
    Nd
    Fsu
    Clemson
    Miami
    VT
    unc
    Osu
    Michigan
    Psu
    Wisconsin
    Msu
    Iowa
    Nebraska
    Oregon
    Usc
    Ucla
    Washington

    8 team tournament for the last 2 spots
     
  20. drewru

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    Also wonder if it’s culturally a fit. The P12 schools measure up academically no doubt, but I don’t get the sense that football is as important to their universities (sans USC and maybe Oregon).

    Basing this off living in Berkeley since October and visiting Palo Alto a couple times. RE hen again, a lot of that time was during the pandemic restrictions. Looking forward to seeing what game day atmosphere in the P12 is like come fall, but have my doubts it will measure up.
     
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  21. killerwvu

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    There's nothing stopping the conferences from going to a 9 game conference schedule
     
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  22. dblplay1212

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    Ok no more WVU vs Long Island
     
  23. killerwvu

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    And every WVU fan would be fine with that. Our other 2 OOC games are P5 opponents
     
  24. gowolverines8

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    iam talking beyond 9, you get to 20 team conferences, your going go past that
     
  25. dblplay1212

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    Every Bama fan would be fine with no more Mercer. Almost every team has games like that bc of money. Shit sucks.
     
  26. steamengine

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    Why are the Mississippi schools on this list? And South Carolina for that matter?
     
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  27. dblplay1212

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    Sec sec sec

    Who else is left? Colorado, Arizona, Minnesota? TT? I'd put Ole Miss above them. Miss st is iffy but sec.
     
  28. steamengine

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    I didn’t see Ark and Mizzou so I figured you were being objective enough to at least leave out the bad football SecSecSec schools.
     
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  29. dblplay1212

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    I'm old enough to remember an SEC without Arky or Mizzou.
     
  30. Beeds07

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    I’m So in this realignment scenario are conferences only playing conference games? I ask because if Alabama is playing a 9-10 game schedule in this new SEC their other games will absolutely be games like Mercer. The reason I say this is because we constantly hear that they schedule these games because the SEC is too tough to play hard teams week to week already.
     
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  31. The Banks

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    Time zones are a bonus for tv coverage. Instead of eyeballs for 3 game windows you have eyeballs for 4-5.
     
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  32. Beagle

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    At this point, I wish they would go ahead and speed up to a 24-32 super league so I can quit pretending to care about the sport.
     
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  33. dblplay1212

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    In my fantasy world, all 32 teams have close to the same SOS. It's the NFL. 13 game schedule with all conference games. Team A doesn't need a cupcake to able up for Team B having 12 mediocre at best games.

    No games vs Toledo.
     
  34. VaxRule

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    If you’re really talking about a breakaway group of schools to abandon the ncaa and self govern/monetize, you can’t keep the slavish devotion to region. You need to be national and capture the markets where the people actually are.
     
  35. dblplay1212

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    Ok give your 32 team league
     
  36. VaxRule

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    I already said it needs to be at least 64.
     
  37. dblplay1212

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    lol at people getting whiny about a list I took 90 seconds to make to give an idea of what an nfl type setup would look like. Calm down, boys. If you want to take 2 teams out for 2 others, have at it. I didn't even fill out all 32 lol.
     
  38. dblplay1212

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    No, no it does not. There's not 64 good programs out there. It would just water it down. And you'd play some teams once every 20 years. Do 32 football only breakaway conference and leave bball under the NCAA.
     
  39. w2b

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    people endlessly giving their personal proposals is the absolute worst part of realignment.
     
  40. VaxRule

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    That isn’t how a breakaway happens. It’s going to be for all sports. The broadcasting partnerships are already built that way. Once you’ve committed to being a money making enterprise, you aren’t going to want to keep letting Big West schools get basketball tournament dollars. Especially once the athletes are determined to be employees by the courts.
     
  41. VictorJ24

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    The ACC dying and Syracuse being left out would probably be best for me. I won't have to spend the early part of my Saturday watching shit football.
     
  42. dblplay1212

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    Bro, I'm talking about my fantasy world. Stop applying your rules to it. You're taking this way to seriously for a Sunday morning.
     
  43. GoodForAnother

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    seems the Pac12/B1G partial merger is driven by Fox and there is some doubt if it can be pulled off but the interest is there on both sides

    I imagine the remaining Pac and Big12 schools get together in such a scenario

    if not, it does sound like the Pac has interest in adding central time teams for better TV money

    who the fuck knows
     
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  44. dblplay1212

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    Well you can't do this bc bylaw 3.8017372 says you can't do that until 2037 and you can't break that bc TV network XYZ won't allow it so here's the only way we can really do this. I hope the commissioners are reading this!
     
  45. VaxRule

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    You don’t have to now but people are going to use it as a conversation topic and expect you to be knowledgeable on the topic. I get it. I’m ready for the end of it all too. Just start some minor leagues. Tying them to schools is dumb.
     
  46. wes tegg

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    This thread was a lot more fun when we were laughing at A&M.
     
  47. Shiggityshwo

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    I just hope the final move to super conferences comes sooner rather than later with this growing financial gap
     
  48. VaxRule

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  49. GoodForAnother

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    total viewers in 2020 for remaining big 12 schools in millions (with OU and TX games removed)

    OSU 10.88
    WVU 8.64
    ISU 8.47
    KSU 8.27


    TTU 5.89
    TCU 5.85
    BU 5.04
    KU 3.42

    turns out just playing good football games gets people to turn on their tv

    imo if I’m a commissioner in a post cable tv world I’m trying to add quality content and that means taking solid programs regardless of where they’re located. go cat
     
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  50. Taques

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    why would anybody want college football to be just a shittier NFL?