Electric Vehicles

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  1. MORBO!

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    It’s been five days since I got my VIN for my Model 3 and hoo boy am I getting antsy.
     
  2. BP

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  3. dblplay1212

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    Interested to see the results.
     
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  4. afb

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    The results are in the article….
     
  5. Joe Withabee

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    :laugh: Just a pure DBL reaction
     
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  6. dblplay1212

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    Haha I got to the way it was setup and then there was a gallery and I didn't go past it.
     
  7. MORBO!

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    Deliver scheduled for next Saturday. Squeeee
     
  8. matistic

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    Once I got to set a delivery date, they texted a day later with an earlier date, then called the next day for an even earlier one. Picked mine up yesterday, just in time for the electrical grid to likely fail down here in Texas, so that’s great.
     
  9. MORBO!

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    oh baby that would be sweet
     
  10. racer

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    EV needs a salute wave, and I propose the shocker.
     
  11. MODEVIL

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    Forks up
     
  12. C A N E

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    Pleasantly surprised to see my FL registration renewal is only $46.85 for the year.

    Seen stories that some west coast states charge $600/yr.
     
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  13. ButchCassidy

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    So the Mach E has been voted best electric vehicle. I always wanted a Tesla, but I think I want to trade in my SUV for the Mach E. Especially with the shortage of vehicles, I could probably trade my car in with no negative equity.

    Now I just have to convince the wife.
     
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  14. racer

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    Do it. 7200 miles and zero ragerts. As has been documented, the software is still behind, but getting better. Build quality and ride have been really great. Mileage has generally exceeded advertised. Charging has not been an issue except the time that the fast charger I wanted to used was filled with Teslas because the supercharger across the street went down.
     
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  15. WC

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    Was this an official vote by car people or just a TMB straw poll? Looking to send some literature to some folks if there’s an article.
     
  16. racer

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  17. WC

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    Just found that too, much appreciated!
     
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  18. ButchCassidy

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    Which model did you go with? I was thinking the Premium. Would prefer to have AWD, but I'll have to look into it more. My buddy says to go with ER batteries, but I don't have unlimited funds, lol.
     
  19. racer

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    I got a first edition, which is the Premium AWD ER with some different paint and interior colors. Body color wheel trim vs black, black headliner with matched blue stitching inside. Grabber blue paint, which was a FE only color.

    Depends on your intended use. Daily driver in town, and occasional trips will be more than fine with the standard pack. AWD will obviously get you the traction as with any AWD. On electrics it’s also the most power because there is a motor on each axle.

    The premium stereo is very good, some will say it doesn’t compete with custom aftermarket setups. That’s pretty much expected.
    I also like the glass roof and interior features of the premium like full power/heated seats and steering wheel. Should come standard equipped for hands free as well. Wheels are better IMO as well, but that’s preference. Power lift gate with foot access is good. The front grill trim is also a little better looking IMO.

    if you need range, looking for a CA Route 1 RWD is the range monster, but lacks a lot of the premium features.

    GT and GT performance models are coming and will be cool as hell and faster.
     
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  20. SD_Irish

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    I think I've talked my mom into getting an EV and she's zeroed in on the Mach E. Any concerns about Ford not having the same charging system availability as Tesla? Assume there are major investments being made in expanding Ford compatible networks?
     
  21. racer

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    No concerns or issues. There are nationwide networks, like Electrify America. The charging networks are proportionate to the percentage of EVs on the road, it seems. Tesla charging network is huge, but they also have the most EVs. There should also be significant growth in the standard charge plug network with the new legislation. I’ve watched a lot of YouTube hours about EV roadtripping and it’s mostly an annoyance because they’re using the seamless integration of Tesla as their benchmark. Never any issues of not making it to a charging stop.

    All that said, the overwhelming majority of EV charging for your average person will be done at home. I just had a 220 plug put in the garage and use the included charger. You can also spend 500-2500+ on charging equipment with more connected features, but the car itself does most of that anyway.
     
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  22. pianoman

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    Colleague of mine just left to take a director position with Rivian. I look forward to hearing about all the stuff they're working on from him.
     
  23. dblplay1212

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    That's awesome. Love that SUV.
     
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  24. racer

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    More excited about this than I’d like to admit

    https://electrek.co/2021/07/16/pire...R-gZRNk_DGA9Mt43w4nScYIOeFa_LkL2lEegzwcmOiVPo


    Pirelli introduces EV dedicated tire to debut on the Lucid Air
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    Italian tire manufacturer Pirelli has announced a new high load (HL) index tire that will make its debut on the upcoming Lucid Air sedan. This HL tire was designed specifically for electric cars and SUVs to support heavier weight from batteries while maintaining a low rolling resistance.
     
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  25. racer

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  26. Wchristopher

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    I think we are going to see a lot of “energy as a service” options come available for municipalities and utilities. It will pass the cost to the consumer but should speed up our infrastructure build out.

    Also, my Model Y is coming in September and I haven’t been this excited for a new car since I was 16. I almost went with the Mach E but want to see how they perform for a few years first.
     
  27. dblplay1212

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    I'm OK with the way it's put here. If a car charges slower and takes up the charger longer, it should be a little more expensive bc it's taking up space longer. They want them in and out, like a waitress as a restaurant turning tables.


    Not all EVs can charge as quickly as a Tesla, especially when some Supercharger stations may soon provide 300 kilowatts' worth of energy.

    In such cases, if an EV charges slowly, Tesla will charge more for owners using a Supercharger.
     
  28. racer

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    There are quite a few chargers I’ve seen that charge by the minute vs kWh. Makes sense where the space is at a premium. Cars that can take a fast speed get in and out cheap, slower cars obviously cost more because they need longer. This method is also is a blow to affordability, as the less expensive cars are likely to have a slower charge rate. In this case it’s just Elon finding a way to keep some kind of superiority and priority for Tesla.

    It’s not apples to apples because gas cars don’t work like this, but you buy fossil fuels by quantity 100% of the time because cars don’t have different flow rates and nobody is concerned about turning limited stations. As charging builds out there shouldn’t be the need to incentivize short sessions.
     
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  29. Mix

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    Bought myself a new electric scooter to get around. Supposed to get here in about 6 weeks, so excited to basically stop driving.
     
  30. jaygabriel

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    These actually make a huge difference. Straight line speed is off the charts (like a rocket sled), but the handling and performance is unlike anything else I've ever experienced.
     
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  31. SD_Irish

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    Saw a Volkswagen ID4 on the road on Friday for the first time. Looked very slick. Has anyone test driven one of these? Any opinions in terms of how it measures up against a Tesla Y or Mach E?
     
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  32. racer

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    I never drove one. Didn’t like the specs and drive options enough to consider it personally.

    this guy is kind of a douchenozzle at times, but does some good EV reviews.


    Sandy Munro usually has some good info regarding build and such.

     
  33. afb

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    under $40,000 is a helluva breaking point considering almost all EVs worth owning start at $37,500

    this means the sr+ model 3 barely makes the cut at $39,990
     
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  34. racer

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    Hopefully that means automakers will begin to get incentives to make more affordable EVs, but in the short term that sucks. That makes the decision easier about the F150 lighting, though. I was on the fence of getting the base model at 39 and change as a good value or trading the Mach-E in on a Lariat. I think I’ll keep the Mach-E and go for the base lightning if this holds up. That’s by far my best value play. I’m not comfortable with two big ass car payments that having both high end models would bring.
     
  35. ButchCassidy

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    When does this go into effect? That’s one thing that took the mach-e over Tesla, the tax credit.
     
  36. afb

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    dont know yet

    there is also speculation one of the separate bills will change it at the end of the year because this language doesnt lift the cap on vehicles sold so GM & Tesla wouldn't be included in this one
     
  37. afb

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    there's not really a way for this as the tech is just too expensive

    it's not like they are just charging more for an EV mustang bc they can
     
  38. racer

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    Thinking more along the lines of kicking R&D, purchasing, manufacturing engineering, and whoever else into high gear to get prices into that range. Companies with the resources of a Ford or GM or Toyota can make it happen once it becomes worth their while.
     
  39. PAHokie

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    Fuuuucckkk. That might have just cut me out of getting the F150
     
  40. Mix

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    So stupid. Of course Nebraska is responsible for this. And Arizona.
     
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  41. rulethirty

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    Isn't Elon working on a 25k base model for China?

    With how much that man loves taking subsidies I bet he brings it over.
     
  42. Mix

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  43. PAHokie

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    Yeah reading into this, the senate passed it but it would need to go through the house which I don’t think it will pass. Also seems silly this would come up when a bigger EV focused bill is on the table by the end of the year. Guess this could be a warning for upcoming negotiation on that.

    At a min I really need the current credit to stay to want to jump into the EV with the F150. The new bills upgrade would really make the cost more palatable.
     
  44. PAHokie

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    Cybertruck officially delayed to 2022.
     
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  45. racer

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    Hadn’t been watching that close. 2024 is a long way off, and could get pushed for any number of reasons.

     
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  46. afb

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    The hummer EV and cyber truck will have this too
     
  47. racer

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    I was wandering around some car lots yesterday and there were a couple of 2018 Chevy Bolts sitting on the lot. I looked them over for shits and giggles and when I opened the charge port the DC was capped over like the photo on the right on both:

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    I spent a good 30 seconds trying to uncover the DC portion. Another had the full CCS plug like I expected. Very strange to me that they did them like that with no DC charging.
     
  48. Clemson327

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    Nissan also used to offer a DC plug (Chademo) as an option on the base model Leaf, but I don’t know if they still do that.
     
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  49. racer

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    That’s wild that fast charging used to be an option and not just standard.