Work has installed a lot of electric charging stations around the plant site. With it being a 30 minute commute, I could literally drive to work for pennies on the dollar but everything in my price range (I'm notoriously cheap) is ugly and slow. I haven't really done the math but when I hand over my current car for my daughter to drive I'll reconsider. Maybe a $40K vehicle is negligibly more expensive/cheaper than the 2014 Honda I currently drive now. Mach E is the leader in the clubhouse at the moment. Congratulations to you guys considering $40K + vehicles ($75 -$100 K ) because it's just not in my DNA to ever spend that much on a vehicle.
I've talked about it in here before but I went from a 2011 Audi Q7 diesel to a 2018 Tesla model 3. I bought it a year ago, so before the crazy used car market and paid about $38,000. I also charge at work for "free" but with that, no maintenance, no oil changes, no brakes changes, etc I'm saving about $6000 a year even accounting for my payment almost doubling.
they regenerate! Currently considering getting a 2018 Leaf with around 150mi range just for in-town everyday commuting stuff, looks like they can be had for around $16k
It does but has regenerative braking so you hardly use them. Saw a Reddit post recently of a model S getting its first brake change at 250K miles.
in two months, i've pressed my brake pedal maybe 6 times when you let off the gas/accelerator, the car aggressively stops itself so that pedal just becomes a balancing act to where you essentially don't need the brake pedal unless it's an emergency stop or maybe traffic light changes when you are too close and the regen braking wont brake fast enough for you
One pedal driving is easily in my top 3 for favorite things about driving an EV. Also up there is not having gears. Had to drive my wife's car today and I now can't stand trying to accelerate and being in between gears and having that lag time. Makes driving a car such a breeze when every time you step on the pedal it just goes.
that and the hold mode where the car sits in place without using any pedal i've had to move my wife's ICE car in and out of the garage a few times and it's such a jerky mechanic with the car moving by itself
One pedal is the GOAT. I save around 300 right off the top of my payment each month in gas savings, so that nearly washes the higher cost for me right away. Mach-E #1 and I’m prepared to be severely wounded on that hill, then seek proper medical attention.
My dad went with on a drive 2-hours each way today, did a little fast charging, etc. He’s ridden in it and seen it multiple times a week for months, but hadn’t been on a long ride. By the drive home he was pointing out every Tesla and asking all of the questions about EVs. This is good.
My post was poorly worded. I meant are you considering some gas cars along side the Tesla, or are you exclusively considering EVs?
I was gonna get the Y over the 3 but they took away the SR+ and that's why I went with the 3. They are essentially the same except the Y rides higher, and I love the 3 so
Gotcha, wife and I both want EV. I have a reservation for the F150 Lightning’s but who knows when that’s going to hit for me. I was going to look at Mach E and Tesla Y. Need space for two kids, we have our Pilot for when I need to take all three kids at the same time.
I'm kinds surprised there isn't an ev mini van craze It's like the perfect size vehicle for many people who only need a 100 miles or so a day of distance to run the kids to school, karate, etc
Pacifica hybrid goes like 25-30 miles on electric before gas kicks in. My buddy loves his. I do think it is the perfect platform for them too.
General question but as I was reading this thread I was wondering. Is auto insurance noticeably different if you drive an EV, or is it still dependent on the make/model? How many of you guys have an EV but don’t charge it at home?
Anyone have any insight into buying vs leasing? Different at all vs normal cars? Also how about current market, what’s the better option with prices the way they are. Looking to get maybe a model y or Mach e in a couple months
It’s still dependent on the make and model. My Leaf was cheaper than our truck when it was new, but my Model S is now more expensive.
Part commonization. Cheaper to make the two different parts on the same line and just exclude the DC option on the low-end model.
My parents put a down payment reservation on a VW ID.4 today. Local dealership will only be getting 1 in November and it will be theirs. I’m holding out for the Subaru next year.
Still waiting on my Tesla Y that was ordered mid-May. It randomly gets pushed to 'October' and then will go to a couple week range. Really hope it comes in 2 weeks. I'm sick of my wife's Alfa Romeo and it has needed an oil change for 3 months...
My insurance is a little more than my Subaru, but not outrageously more. Maybe $30/mo. The main difference I’ve seen is related to tax credits. Ford has an ev-exclusive purchase option called Ford Options. Since you need to purchase and title/register the vehicle as the owner to get the tax credit standard leases don’t qualify. The bank is the owner in these cases. I think you can lease, but it’s burning $7500. This plan has 3 years with low payment then a balloon. The costs per month line up exactly as a lease would. You can pay it off/refi or sell it back. The agreement basically says Ford will purchase the vehicle from you at 36 mo at the price equal to the balloon, making it like a lease turn in. If credits make it back in a broad way we may see more of this. https://www.ford.com/finance/finance-options/ford-options
What color/specs. I’m close to pulling the trigger on a Y. Going to test drive soon. I figure if I put the deposit down I won’t get it until the end of the year.
Model Y Long Range. We'll likely add the self-driving because my wife has to drive a long ways (2.5 hours) to work and back once/week.
If you want one in the next 6 months, I'd reserve one now. You would lose the $100 deposit though if you change your mind.
What kind of drive is it? If it's mostly highway or easy enough the full self driving isn't anywhere worth it yet. I just have the basic autopilot that comes with every Tesla and it's great on the highway, zero problems there. City streets not quite the same story though. If the beta full self driving was out to everyone that would be a different story cause it's much more impressive with all scenarios.
That's really good to know, and also why we haven't opted for it yet. The drive is pure interstate outside of 1 mile at the beginning/end. I'm moreso curious about how true they are to the battery distance. It's about 220 miles to the office up there.
Lexus is emailing me about how they want my car for a trade-in. At this point, I could probably get more on the trade than I owe on the car. Was thinking maybe could trade in for a UX Hybrid. But, those retail for about 35k, and after tax credit I could get a mach-e for about that price, and be fully electric.
A lot of factors will go into that. Elevations, wind, how cold (new models with heat pump help a lot with that one, my 2018 M3 gets crushed in cold weather), etc. I get about 260 miles on the highway pretty consistently, but that is on a 2018 M3 that was rated for like 310 I think at the time.
Another question will be if there is convenient charging at work or supercharging that’s convenient for the drive home. I’d assume so based on a quick check of supercharger locations, but worth exploring to be sure. If it’s once weekly a little detour is worth all of the other benefits to me. If I had to go like 40 miles out of my way daily maybe I’d look at other options.
Does anyone have any clue how the EVs hold up in climates with snow? I’m concerned about safety on ice and the electronics corroding from salt.
They’re pretty heavily adopted in Norway so I would assume they hold up okay. It might be worth doing some research on any issues people have had there or in Canada.
There's a Tesla charger 1 block away. So no problem there. I have an electrician installing one at our house, but I also installed them at my work so I can charge there for free the day before.
I was talking to a friend that works for Enterprise rent-a-car and they said that all managers are now being given a Polestar 2 as their company car. He said his wife already has hers. They will be responsible for charging on their own somehow.
Related: I was just in Home Depot and the majority of their push lawn mowers were battery. That was nice to see.
Maybe they've gotten better, but electric lawn mower are ass vs gas. I'd love an EV mower if they didn't suck
I imagine the power has been getting better. Haven’t tried one. I just got a fiskars reel mower off of fb marketplace really cheap to try out I place of my gas mower.
I think it is car and driver that has a long term test on a Tesla and the only snow specific issue is with an annual brake service. They said it is a Tesla specific service to lube the brakes due to salt being put on the road.
I’ll report back in March with my findings. Everything I’ve read is that it’s just a matter of range with the thermal management and cabin heat systems taking energy. The parts hold up and operate as any other car would.