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  1. Lyrtch

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    Boise's turn it would seem

    Boise Police: Shots fired at Boise Towne Square, people asked to avoid area
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    Photo by: Steve Dent, Idaho News 6
    By: Katie Kloppenburg
    Posted at 2:17 PM, Oct 25, 2021
    and last updated 3:50 PM, Oct 25, 2021
    UPDATE (2:30 p.m.): Boise Police say there are multiple reports of injuries and one person is in custody.

    Police are working their way through the mall to clear each business, according to a tweet from Boise Police. They say it is expected to take some time.

    Police say they have no further information indicating additional threats at this time.

    Ada County Highway District announced Milwaukee is closed in both directions between Franklin and Emerald due to police activity in the area.


    ORIGINAL STORY: The Boise Police Department is responding to a report of shots fired at Boise Towne Square.

    People are asked to avoid the area, according to BPD.


    This is a breaking news story. Idaho News 6 has a crew on scene and we will provide updates as they become available.
     
  13. Prospector

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    2 killed and 4 injured, including police officer, in Idaho mall shooting
    Monday, October 25, 2021 10:22PM
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    A suspect is in custody after two people were killed and four injured -- including a police officer -- in a shooting at a shopping mall Monday in Boise, Idaho, police said.

    BOISE, Idaho -- A suspect is in custody after two people were killed and four injured -- including a police officer -- in a shooting at a shopping mall Monday in Boise, Idaho, police said.

    At a news conference, authorities said officers exchanged gunfire with the suspect. The majority of the mall has been cleared but police were still looking for any additional victims.

    Police didn't release any other information, saying the investigation was ongoing.

    Police are asking people to avoid the area. Police also said they were notifying the families of those involved.

    The Boise Towne Square shopping mall is located in Idaho's largest city and is the city's largest mall.

    Police were interviewing dozens of people outside the entrance to Macy's, one of five large department stores at the mall that has 153 stores in all.

    Police are also investigating what appears to be another crime scene at a restaurant near the mall.

    Cheri Gypin, of Boise, was in the mall with a friend where they walk for an hour three or four times a week. She said she heard several large bangs, but thought something had fallen from the ceiling. Then about 60 people, including families pushing strollers, came running at them, some of them shouting that there was an active shooter.

    "My friend was trying to process it," said Gypin, 60. "I just looked at her and said, 'We've got to run.' So we just ran and kept running until we got to the outer perimeter of the parking lot."

    They made their way back to their car, where police told the crowd of people who had fled the mall to leave the parking area.
     
  14. Prospector

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    Boise mall shooter was a far-right gun rights extremist who stalked local antifascists at rally


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    Boise Town Square shooter Jacob Bergquist posed for this photo as a promotion for his videos on social media.
    The man who opened fire at a mall in Boise, Idaho, on Monday, killing two people and injuring five others before being fatally wounded by police, was a far-right gun extremist who had expressed an animus towards Latinos and other minorities—and who not only carried a gun into the Idaho governor’s office, but also turned up armed at an April antifascist protest in Boise and menaced demonstrators, Daily Kos has learned.
    Jacob Bergquist, 27, was a convicted felon who had moved to Idaho a few years ago and had apparently developed an obsession with establishing his right to carry a firearm under Idaho law, a review of his social media posts indicates. He died Monday at a Boise hospital after being shot during the culmination of a shooting rampage inside Boise Towne Square, the state’s largest shopping mall.

    Bergquist shot and killed a security guard, Jo Acker, 26, of Caldwell, and a Latino man, Roberto Padilla Arguelles, 49, who lived in Rupert. (Acker was transgender; the family of Arguelles, an immigrant from Mexico, is holding a fundraiser so that his remains can be returned home.) Bergquist also wounded two women inside a store in the mall, then proceeded outside where he exchanged gunfire with police; a woman inside a nearby car was wounded, as was one of the police officers.

    Police have not yet determined a motive for the shooting rampage but this had not been their first encounter with Bergquist.

    On April 2, Bergquist entered the office of Idaho Gov. Brad Little in the Statehouse in Boise and asked for an interview, saying he wanted to query the governor about his thoughts on convicted felons like himself being able to carry guns. A state trooper who observed the interaction and then sought guidance from the Ada County prosecutor’s office was advised that Bergquist was within his rights to do so under Idaho law.

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    Jacob Bergquist, with a pistol in a holster strapped to his waist, was photographed stalking an antifascist protest against police brutality in downtown Boise last April.
    Over two weeks later, on April 17, Bergquist showed up at an unpermitted antifascist protest against police brutality with a handgun in a holster strapped to his waist. Participants in the protest took his photo because he “gave off a dangerous vibe,” according to sources who were present. The marchers did not confront him, and instead continued on their route through downtown Boise.

    Bergquist, marchers said, followed them from a distance. Activists noted that Bergquist’s presence came shortly after his encounter with police inside the Statehouse.

    "They specifically told him he was all good to be gunned up, and he rolls out immediately to greet us,” one of the marchers said. They described Bergquist as having an “expressionless face.”

    At the same march, Boise police ticketed the marchers for violating the city’s noise ordinance. One of the demonstrators, Ty Werenka, later contested the ticket in city court as unconstitutional, and won when the judge—who noted that the officer, Desmond Hooks, failed to handle standard procedure by issuing a warning, and that police failed to hand out similar tickets in situations that more commonly violate the law—ruled that the citation was “discriminatory.”

    “Being treated differently by the police isn't something foreign to me and it definitely wasn't a special occurrence that day,” Werenka messaged Daily Kos this week. “The judge, my attorney, and I all came to the conclusion that Desmond Hooks treated me differently than he normally treats folks allegedly violating the city noise ordinance because he admitted to it himself in court.

    “He proudly stated that he gave me no warning (despite admitting that it was common practice), didn't investigate if we had a permit, and didn't check to see if the demonstration fell within the outlined exceptions in the city code (it did). Hooks came by Boise Mutual Aid less than a week later and told me that he would ‘jam up’ the people receiving aid if we didn't tell him where an individual he was looking for was located.”

    It was an Idaho State Police trooper, rather than Boise police, who dealt with Bergquist on April 2. In a redacted report, Trooper James Love described how Bergquist entered the statehouse with a holstered handgun on his hip and then admitted he had a felony conviction in Illinois. Love said he asked Bergquist why he was carrying a gun if he was a felon, but Bergquist replied that he was allowed to do so under Idaho code 18-310, and urged the trooper to check it out.

    Bergquist told the governor’s receptionist that he wanted to interview Little because he was "trying to get the word out to others that they too could carry in Idaho." Love referred the information to the Ada County prosecutor, who informed him that under Idaho law, Bergquist was permitted to possess firearms there.

    “Idaho Code Section 18-310(2) has a list of qualifying felony convictions which prohibit firearm possession,” the office explained in a statement. “Mr. Bergquist did not have a felony conviction for a listed offense. He was prosecuted for a qualifying offense in another state, but that case did not result in a qualifying felony conviction. On July 28, 2011, a misdemeanor judgment of conviction was entered in that case [for marijuana trafficking]. He was prosecuted for a retail theft offense in Illinois which does not qualify under 18-310 as a qualifying felony prior conviction. Our office could not take any action.”

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    Jacob Berquist’s ‘About’ section on YouTube featured racist rants.
    On social media, this particular cause was Bergquist’s preoccupation—along with an animus towards Latino people, Black people, and hip-hop music. Though he had a Facebook account on which he mostly kept personal photos, his primary activity was on YouTube, where he operated a channel called “Guns N Rodents.” His “About” text, posted in February 2018, reads, “I am a Convicted Felon that is a Boise, Idaho resident in the USA,” and explains how his videos from his time in Illinois involved “my interactions with squirrels and raccoons.” Then he launched into an all-caps screed:

    GUNS N RODENTS MAINTAINS A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY TOWARDS GHETTO BLASTERS AND GENERAL HISPANICS! YOU WILL BE BLOCKED, BANNED & DELETED—WHICHEVER IS MOST APPLICABLE. NO NEGOTIATIONS.

    THIS MEANS MINORITIES ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!! GET OUT OF HERE AND DO NOT VIEW ANY OF MY VIDEOS!! GO BACK TO SH*THOLE GUATEMALA.

    In a rebooted version of the channel, Bergquist explained: “This channels main dedication is towards repealing the prohibited possessor list in various states throughout the union.”

    The cause of enabling convicted felons to have their firearms rights restored has long been a cause of so-called “Second Amendment” absolutists who contend that the Constitution prohibits any gun regulations whatsoever, including the National Rifle Association and the far-right Gun Owners of America. The same ideology has also become a major conduit of recruitment of gun owners into white nationalist and other extremist ideologies, and it proved to be a central factor in the radicalization of the insurrectionists who attacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    But gun rights extremism has long had a large constituency in Idaho, resulting in some of the most lax gun ownership laws in the nation. In 2014, Idaho passed a law—which was passed unanimously in both the House and the Senate—declaring the state no longer had to abide by federal gun laws going forward. It also criminalized the enforcement of federal gun laws. Such laws, as The Atlantic explains, are unconstitutional on their face, but they have not yet been challenged in court. (The Supreme Court recently declined the case of a felon seeking to overturn a lifetime gun ban.)

    In 2016, gun rights extremists led by Gun Owners of America held a rally at the statehouse demanding legislators pass a law allowing unpermitted open carry of firearms; the rally was populated by a range of militia enthusiasts and other patriot movement followers. The law was passed with broad support, and went into effect in July that year.

    The result of these laws is an environment in which far-right extremists are empowered by authorities to use their guns to intimidate their political opponents, as Bergquist did in April. More insidiously, they have created an environment in which police forces—which increasingly have been demonstrating their sympathy with such extremists—actually green-light their threatening behavior, which is invariably directed at vulnerable minorities and the broader community.

    “The police here have the ability to act with impunity because so few people actually have the will or the ability to fight back,” Werenka observed. “There are multiple murders and shootings carried out by the police in this state every year that never have their camera footage released because political leaders (elected and unelected) are more concerned with giving lip service to ‘diversity’ than they are with fostering a community where it is actually safe to be a minority. The cops here use drones to flush out and and find people sleeping outside and shoot people in crisis who need real help. It's pretty fucking grim and all of it disproportionately hurts the marginalized communities here.”

    Only a few hours after Bergquist unleashed his lethal rampage, an audience member at a Turning Point USA event asked speaker Charlie Kirk: “When do we get to use the guns? … How many elections are they gonna steal before we kill these people?”

    There is no evidence that the inquirer (later identified by Redoubt Antifascists and an activist named Danesh on Twitter as Zackary Fettel, a Boise area resident) had any connection to Jacob Bergquist or his rampage. But on a deeper level—the one at which the radicalization of the American right is engendering eliminationist violence—they are profoundly connected.
     
  15. Daniel Ocean

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    I might be crazy but I’m starting to notice a trend with these guys.
     
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    Hey Tucker Carlson,
    How about you whip up some hysteria covering the violent lunatics on the far right, many of whom are likely among your viewers? You know, the ones actually killing people.

    God I hate that fucker.
     
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    Literally messing around on twitter before passing out and saw this story, just unreal but predictable it'll go by without the people saying/implying the same rhetoric on a daily basis being held responsible.

    TOTALLY UNTHINKABLE, open carry for all



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    5 teens taken to hospital after shooting at Colorado park
    By Sarah Moon, CNN

    Updated 3:59 PM ET, Mon November 15, 2021

    (CNN)Police in Aurora, Colorado, were responding Monday to a park where multiple people have been shot, police said.

    Five teenagers, ranging in age from 14 to 17, have been transported to a hospital, the Aurora Police Department tweeted.
    Central High School is on lockdown, police said, though the shooting did not happen inside of the school.
    The suspect is at large.
     
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    Close enough. My old neighborhood. Been almost 25 years, though.
     
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    It has to be so scary to live in Aurora
     
  23. Prospector

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    Is it wrong to think upwards of half of the citizens have varying levels of ptsd? I don't know how big a city it is, but damn
     
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    parents need to be arrested and tried for murder
     
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    Man it’s fun to just live in hell world
     
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    cool little country we got here
     
  29. fattus

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    So depressing that mass shootings are so commonplace now that we just do a thread bump.
     
  30. Bruce Wayne

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    Really not looking forward to any social media of the shooting being posted
     
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  32. Daniel Ocean

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  33. Lyrtch

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    "he said bro, red flag"
     
  34. Eathan Edwards

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    I don't have kids - but if I hear of multiple rumors that there is going to be a shooting at their school I'm pulling them the fuck out of school.
     
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    Have they said how he got the gun?
     
  36. racer

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    “Yeah, there were threats, but where was the proof?” Said the school official who apparently has no idea how threats work.
     
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    Can't imagine seeing something like this and thinking "what this country needs is more guns"
     
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    Sheriff is doing a press conference right now. He said the boy’s father bought it on November 26th.
     
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    and they wonder why Gen Z hates this country
     
  41. IV

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    “You’re okay now” Bullshit that dude is 80 yards away

    edit: in retrospect I obviously appreciate his calm approach to the situation, but still don’t undermine the danger
     
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  42. Lyrtch

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    Tate was a football recruit and his name got thrown around immediately after as someone who tried to stop the shooter.
     
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    Fuck that's rough. Sounds like he probably/potentially saved lives.
     
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    (couldn't find a profile to get a picture of him)
     
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  47. Eathan Edwards

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    I don't know many exactly - but a shitload of people should have seen that coming.

    Assuming the accuracy of those twitter posts obviously.
     
  48. Daniel Ocean

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    I don’t know if this counts more of a mass murder but here we are. Guy kills 5. 4 kids ages 11,7,2, 1 and their grandmother.
     
  49. Eathan Edwards

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    That was pretty much the only post to make this page more depressing.

    I'm assuming drugs, showing up late and killing the entire family?