Our 2014 pitching staff had 6 main SP throughout the year, Scherzer, Verlander, Porcello, Sanchez, Smyly and Price. We got swept rd 1 by the Orioles....in the 7 years since, all 6 have won a world series and 3 have won a combined 4 Cy young awards
Also in the 2014 rotation was Robbie Ray, who was awful and people crushed Dombrowski for trading Fister for him (I was one of them). He traded him for Shane Greene that offseason. Ray is probably going to win the AL Cy Young this year.
I'd say smile because it happened, but we got swept that year so nothing good ended up happening. The Ray part of it is kind of the perfect capper to that era, unfortunately. Dombrowski got enormous heat for trading Fister for Ray after the 2013 season and was super defensive about it. And he ended up right in the end, as Fister fell off a cliff and Ray turned into a solid #2/3 for most of his career. But he panic traded him and lost any of that value, leaving us with trash.
His comments on the Fister trade were weird too. He said they only wanted "a young left handed starter" for him, which is a dumb way to go about maximizing trade value. You should take the best offer, but they didn't even entertain offers that didn't a young lefty starter, and basically limited their talks to like 1 team.
We really need to try and lock dow Correa or one of the other SS now. I am sure pressure from the owners and the PA will make it hard for either party to make a deal, but giving a stud like Correa cost certainty before a lockout might entice him to sign.
The salary would get averaged for luxury tax purposes, I think, so that would just help with actual cash flow.
MLB is the wild west compared to NFL/NBA/NHL. You can do anything you want, basically. No one ever does stuff like that, though.
A de-escalating contract makes a lot if sense in that it probably comes closer to matching production and eases translations down the road, but nobody thinks about the future outside of the NFL.
Front loading deals boosts the present day value of the deals, too. If Ilitch is willing to do that kind of thing (which, if we're being honest, I really doubt he is), the Tigers should not offer 10/$300. Instead, they should be pushing something like 8/$280-300M. The point of these absurd 10-13 year deals guys are signing is to keep the present day AAV down to allow you the ability to spend elsewhere. If you're not saving on the present day $$, there's not really a point in paying for it on the back end 10 years from now.
For that matter, offer 6/$240. He'd be the first guy to ever get $40M per year AAV over that long a period of time. I doubt he'd take it because someone probably goes to $300M+ guaranteed overall, but he'd hit the market again at age 32 in that scenario, and could make more money long term that way.
Probably us just based on the fact everyone knows we're in that market. No one really knows if NYY, LAA or PHI are going to chase him, or whether there's still a chance Houston keeps him.
Thanks...hard to wrap my brain around the #1 FA coming to Detroit after this long stretch of ineptitude. That would be something.
No one seems to really know what Correa might be looking for in terms of next location, but just look at the markets that would normally be in on someone like this... NYY - need a SS, but weird fit given the last 5 years of history there NYM - just gave Lindor the world at that position LAD - just traded for Turner, who is playing SS next season LAA - Already paying 2 position players $35M+ per year and need pitching BOS - Already has Bogaerts CHC - Seems like they're resetting and not spending this year CHW - Have Tim Anderson and a bunch of other big deals in recent years HOU - Seems like Correa wants to leave after extension talks went bad TEX - Probably not spending, from the sound of it The most likely big market team to chase him might be Philly, but they've already got Harper for 10 more years + Realmuto's big deal. Seattle is in a similar spot to us, but SS is one of the few positions they have a decent young player already in place. If NYY or LAA jump in that might be a problem, but I just don't see it right now. Doesn't mean we're getting him, but we're basically the one team everyone knows is in play here.
Heyman from MLB predicted tigers but he said wouldn’t be surprised if Correra went back to Houston. Saw the Miami Marlins come up as a prediction spot from another site for Correra at 10 year 350 M too
I can't see the Marlins going to that kind of price for someone. I've seen them mentioned on Castellanos, and I could see them going for that level of guy (maybe multiple bats in the $15M range). I would be stunned if they were willing to pay that kind of $$ for anyone like Correa, though.
I'm fine if we don't get Correa. If it's more than 10/$300M, I'd kind of prefer someone else pays it. My only real concern is that what we do if we don't get Correa. I don't need us panic overpaying for Story or Baez because $$ is burning a hole in the pocket and we're just looking for someone to take it. That's where FA history tends to be very bad.