AEW / WWE thread - real fighting over fake fighting

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  1. Illinihockey

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    its what happens when you book multiple storylines at once. They’ve done a great job promoting their roster and not just 3-4 guys. A lot of times the undercard feuds are even better than the main event
     
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  2. Poetic

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    As long as the Pillars + Ricky Starks is always a focus they won't lose me. Those guys are the future, plus like Dante Martin. Those 6.
     
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  3. Nostradumass

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    It's part of the reason why the "roster is too big!" complaint is silly
     
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  4. jrmy

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    Considering the size of that roster I’m not sure how many more variations of SuperKliq vs JE and Cage we need to see
     
  5. Poetic

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    There's a bigger storyline at play for that. It'll work out.
     
  6. Mr Bulldops

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    He is going to cement MJF as a main event star
     
  7. Nostradumass

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    Gotta think we get Punk/MJF at Winter is Coming II. If not then, maybe at the first show on TBS.
     
  8. snowfx2

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  9. Lando Donovan

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    Holy shit this is perfect:

     
  10. The Great Pumpkin

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    Becky is in unreal shape. Such a star. Her and Roman are the only two left in WWE.
     
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  11. Bankz

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    That match was so freaking good. It really deserved a better finish.
     
  12. snowfx2

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    You absolutely zap the crowd energy with doing shit like this. Full Gear pacing was so good.
     
  13. zeberdee

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    is tonight Survivor Series?
     
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  14. Bankz

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    Yes
     
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  15. lfriend

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    It's every day in the WWE unless you're Roman Reigns.
     
  16. DeToxRox

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    This is the worst show of 2021.
     
  17. snowfx2

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    WWE is usually “ok” on PPVs but holy shit is this dreadful. And this is supposed to be a Big 4 ppv.
     
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  18. zeberdee

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    the brand split ruined Survivor Series.

    same lazy formula every year.
     
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  19. jrmy

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    Someone should find all the Raw and Smackdown t-shirts every year and burn them before these idiots wear them around for SS month
     
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  20. Shunface

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    Does Smackdown ever win Survivor Series?
     
  21. Mr Bulldops

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    “Why would the B show win?” -Vince
     
  22. Hank Scorpio

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    was I dreaming or was Vince trying to convince the audience that he had a golden egg worth billions of dollars?
     
  23. Shawn Hunter

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    Not gonna lie, I have no idea what you are talking about because I didn’t watch, but sounds about right
     
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  24. Hank Scorpio

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    I think they were promoting The Rock's new movie, but I wasn't really paying attention.
     
  25. DeToxRox

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  26. Hank Scorpio

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  27. fsugrad99

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    Ok, I’m seeing all these jokes about on egg on Twitter

    can someone explain this to me?
     
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  28. DeToxRox

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    Rock couldn’t be at the show so he gave them a $100 million egg instead, but then the egg was stolen.
     
  29. zeberdee

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    I was only half paying attention so I don't know what eventually happened to it (I think someone stole it?) but Vince had this egg from the Rock's new movie.

     
  30. fsugrad99

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    Nobody is allowed to complain about sub-par AEW segments ever again
     
  31. DeToxRox

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    Survivor Series was literally a 4.5 hour long version of the Stan music video.
     
  32. UncleJesse

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    Sounds like I missed a good one last night.
     
  33. zeberdee

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    the Roman-Big E match was very good.

    everything else I saw ranged from ok to terrible. I missed Becky and Charlotte though.
     
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  34. Lando Donovan

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    So which storylines were advanced out of their Big 4 PPV last night?

    --Everybody has to show up to Raw tonight to be interrogated about the stolen egg. That's the big hook for tonight. Holy fucking shit.
    --Becky's a babyface now, kinda? And has a new challenger, Liv Morgan, who didn't gain any momentum last night. But Bianca did, who is not currently in the title picture. Ok.
    --Could've legitimized Big E with a monstrous win over Roman. It was a great match, but Big E needed that win much more than Roman did. One of the few times you could've had Roman eat a pin and it doesn't derail his title reign.
    --Is he going to be pissed at the Usos for losing? I guess that's a hook for Smackdown.
    --Omos won the battle royal. What do you do with that? He's in a tag team.
    --I do think Rollins has found himself after a couple of years of failed gimmicks. His theme is perfect, he's the sole survivor, and that's something he can run with.

    Am I missing anything? I had SNF on the other TV, so I was distracted quite a bit, but it doesn't feel like a "fresh new season" beginning tonight. If the entire show is Pearce questioning people about this fucking egg, then they're mailing it in until the Rumble.
     
  35. Nostradumass

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    Mailing it in till the Rumble is WWEs default state post-SummerSlam. Has been that way since 2004.

    Rumble-Mania and for a week in August: that's when you get WWE caring about storylines. Sixteen weeks of "try"
     
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  36. Lando Donovan

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    That was pre-AEW. You would think competition breeds effort. But here we are.
     
  37. Bankz

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    I’m not sure it’s fair to judge a one off PPV that’s essentially a clash of champions reboot now. With that said…

    No clue what to think of this egg storyline, is it just forced advertising to try and hook you to tune in tomorrow. Is it a way to get Vince back on TV? Either way I enjoyed Roman’s line about the Egg being worth slightly less than his next contract outside of that it’s bad but it’s something to try and get people to tune in.

    Still think Becky is a heel, she did cheat to beat Charlotte to gain the pin.

    I think Bianca really needed that last night. She’s been eating a ton of pins mostly to cheating Becky so being the lone survivor was cool. I don’t see it with Liv, she’s getting over but her act isn’t for me. I don’t think she’s ever going to be a main event talent so I don’t see why she’s the female you want pushed out that match.

    E looked great in that match, about as strong your going to look taking a L that you can. I do agree that it would’ve been better if E came out on top, even with a returning Kofie and Woods giving the helping hand. It would’ve worked with the family sticking together storyline they used on the build.

    I’ve been a huge fan of Rollins for some time now. Glad others are starting to really get behind him now. The character is just so entertaining. Also Jeff Hardy is crazy over with the crowd. Him being a challenger to Roman down the line could work since again they are just buying time for Brock and Roman at Mania.

    I also like the KO heel turn… they advanced that fully last night to leave zero doubt. I could see him and E at Day 1.
     
  38. GrizzliesDrew

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    “It’s not fair to judge.” :roll::roll::roll:

    Jesus.
     
  39. Bankz

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    You think its a reasonable expectation to come out of this type of PPV with brand specific storyline advances along with other fresh storylines? That to me isn't reasonable given were getting brand v brand.
     
  40. pearl

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    The two best matches of night imo
     
  41. Lando Donovan

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    I think they're putting KO on ice until his contract runs out in January. They know he's gone so make him look cowardly or however they perceived it last night.

    About Liv, I think she too often times looks like somebody playing pro wrestler instead of being believable (Nattie is the standard for this). I don't think she's main event material, but I do think if they're pushing her as the next challenger for Becky, go all the way with it.

    Who is tuning in for the egg shit?
     
  42. jrmy

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    I'm ready for Dynamite this week.

    I have a bone to pick with AEW though. While they don't give you a program where dudes just fight each other over and over on a week to week basis, it's a little ridiculous that they keep putting their main event talents in matches with guys below pre-show level status and then let them actually have matches where the star takes offense and doesn't just squash these undercard dudes.

    Bryan Danielson vs Cabana makes sense with the Hangman program but it shouldn't be a 10 minute match where Cabana gets in good stuff on Danielson for a portion of the match. Just like having Kenny fight Jobber #5 from the Dark Order right before a title match and letting him look like he's on the same level cheapens having Omega going into the match with Page where he goes over.

    Who the fuck is QT MarSHALL and why would CM Punk even respond to a challenge from this loser who has done all of get beat by Big Slow and have Sting no sell his finisher and beat him down since All Out. CM Punk should just come out and beat that dude in 90 seconds before he cuts a promo on MJF and leaves.
     
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  43. Bankz

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    Becky v Charlotte was just 20 minutes of non stop strong style action. It was fantastic, It wasn't a technical master piece it was just a fight and it was great. Think it should've closed the show.

    I do think they are turning KO to job in him out to E as I do believe he's either leaving or still undecided. He's not a coward, he's just being what everyone is claiming he's is but he still sees himself as a good guy that people refuse to trust and he thinks he's being treated unfairly because of it. After begging for people to believe him and being rejected and mocked he's decided to do what people thought he was doing. Its the best thing going on RAW.

    No argument on either point about Liv. Were in total agreement. She didn't shine in the match last night but she wasn't treated like trash either. I think the downside of last night was the over protection on the booking of the matches. I think the Amos stuff was way to much and didn't really get him over just bore the shit out of everyone tbqh. I think they could've executed the KO thing better, you saw him begging to start the match. I think Seth shouldn't have let him and then they refuse to tag him in during the match before finally getting into the match for the comeback and he just walks out leaving Seth Rollins alone. They over protected Drew and Lashley (I do think Lashley looked great till the count out) and a few other matches just didn't want to deliver clean pins and it hurt the event.

    It was trending on social media, again I think its stupid but were talking about it the night of and day after... I'll probably tune in at the start of RAW to see Vince come out and attempt to make sense of this shit sandwich.
     
  44. Lando Donovan

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    Forgot to mention the random Lashley vignette before the main. WHY? There's just no logical explanation to 95% of the things they do.
     
  45. Bankz

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    I didn't see the vignette because for some reason Peacock went to commercial during the event. This is now the second time that the premium sub of peacock has done that to me. Last time was SummerSlam so I feel like this is not a glitch or accident but what is going to continue to happen.
     
  46. Illinihockey

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  47. GrizzliesDrew

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    LOL. “Why would anyone expect fresh storylines coming out of one of their 4 cornerstone PPVs?” as if someone else is responsible for it or something.
     
  48. Tiffin

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    Yikes glad he's okay.