Harry Potter Thread: Warner Brothers and the Cash Grab Series

Will have low expectations but will still watch. Jude Law vs Mads is some dreamy stuff.

 

Looks like they’re going to hogwarts

 

I hate this fucking cunt

 

And this is why I have no shame that I torranced the audiobooks, took that money right out of your pocket, fucking bigot.

 

Why is it always 1984?

 

I can't fathom why she won't shut the fuck up about this

 

Because she’s a terrible person.

 

I enjoyed it. Some good nostalgia.

I did midnight for Hallows. Stayed up until 6 am. I think I passed out right around Dobby’s death.

 

Would you say that he looks like an old man?

 

Yeah I loved it

 

I did for DH. I don’t remember sleeping that night. Maybe read until like 7-8AM then slept for a couple hours or something like that

 

The story with her and Dan and how he was crushing on her was fucking hilarious.

 

And you were able to post this through the tears and your breakdown. I am proud of you

 

The only part I didn’t like was David Yates proudly telling us how he changed the ending to DH

 

I couldn’t have rolled my eyes harder

 

That was a close second convo to the dan/HBC convo.

 

richard harris thinking fawkes was real

 

I wanted it to be earthier. And I wanted to show how connected they are so I merged them together. FUCK YOU

 

CANADA—Asked restaurant host:
“God, did you hear about Alan Rickman?”
Host: “No.”
“Died. He had terminal cancer.”
Thought he would cry.

 

The bit where they said Rickman played Snape like he did because he’d talked privately with Rowling and said “I need to know how this turns out to play the part.” And his choices confusing the directors was interesting

 

Basically me. I read the book in two or three sittings. I remember getting to the Godricks Hollow chapter and thinking "I'll stop after this one."

I read it and then powered through for another hour.

 

Him being the only one that knew is awesome. Oldman not being surprised was perfect.

 

I feel like this was well known, but it’s always cool to see the rest of the cast talk about it.

 

It's nice to know that Rowling seemingly had a full story built when she started, as opposed to Martin, who seems to have been winging it for about a decade.

 

Dude the last book came out in October of 2005. Almost 17 years ago...

Edit: SORRY, I forgot the 2nd part came out in 2011.

 

I've never read any of them. I was always under the impression that he was dragging on the series from discussions...

 

She’s arguably the best story teller in the last 30ish years.

 

Apples and oranges. As frustrating as it is to wait for Winds of Winter, the two really have different approaches to writing.

JKR is an outline writer. She locks in the story beats, fine tuning them and developing the twists and turns all before she puts pen to page. Once she does, very little deviation can occur without the whole thing unravelling. It's why most of the changes that came to HP along the way were in structure not story (moving key info about Horcruxes from book 2 to book 6 for example). The upside to writing like this is you do all the dirty work up front so the writing part is just a matter of "plug and play." It's almost a formality to "write" in that case. It also allows for some amazing twists, which is arguably the secret-sauce to Harry Potter's greatness.

GRRM doesn't outline. Instead he develops the big picture stuff and then spends most of his time doing the actual "writing," allowing the story to develop as he writes. The upside is you aren't so bound to an outline that you become a slave to it, unable to develop a side-character or plot point that you didn't realize was interesting when you started, etc. It's what allows Martin's stories to be so rich but also so dense and thick. I don't think Storm of Swords would have been as amazing as it was if he just stuck to a standard three-page outline, etc.

That said, personally, I prefer an outline. There's a great satisfaction in fleshing out and fully developing a story from beginning to end and then having fun with the dialogue and prose in the actual "writing" process. You don't have to worry about where the story is going so you can concentrate instead on the personalities of your characters and fun side characters that pop in and out along the way.

 

You're right, but it's been way longer than a decade. The first book came out in 1996

 

I'm convinced he would rather die than publish Winds of Winter. He has buckled under the weight of expectations and his sprawling narrative

 

I remember you talking about toying with some fiction writing of your own (I think it was you anyway). You ever get anywhere?

 

Yeah I've knocked out a few. Selling them on amazon. It's a fun pastime

 

If he was twenty years younger and unrestrained he could do it. He's too old, too tired, too rich, and has said "seven books" for so long that he can't possibly finish with just two more stories. He needs another four or five, based on how he writes and how A Game of Thrones went from one book to three books.

 

the funniest thing about it is that's not even the last book. he has at least another book (probably more with the way it's been going) to finish the story.

in other words, he's definitely dying before finishing. even if WoW comes out at some point.

 

Gonna have to pass it off to Sanderson imo