If the last year has taught us anything it's that all of our institutions rely of mutual/societal acceptance of their legitimacy. If you don't accept that and have some power and people behind you you can be a very dangerous person.
At its logical conclusion you get to who has the backing of the military. Everything else is pretty much just a polite fiction.
Also I really really like the idea of the Supreme Court. In practice the court is a nakedly political institution filled with people who are almost 100% out of touch with regular Americans because they all went to fucking Ivy League schools and have lived everything that entails.
Interesting to think about what the MAGA axis will look like. Law enforcement seems get-able. Red state legislatures are just about already there. Obviously chuds w their ARs. Does Trump drum ppl out the military w loyalty tests/vetting?
If Trump wins he would add 7 more seats to the Court and fill them with Proud Boys and Evangelical preachers, and the same people that cried real tears about the threat of court packing by Biden will be rapturously masturbating in the streets celebrating this as a fantastic move.
Prob give upper brass a chance to bend the knee or resign. He just made an empty call to deploy the national guard to stop shop lifters and looters. He’s absolutely going to do insane military stuff on citizens and especially rival politicians.
So we're looking at abortion being legal in some states and not others? So legal for anyone with the means to go to another state for one but not to people without the means? That's so transport and so cruel. Abortion for me, not thee. Bc half these people crying for a ban would run to another state if their daughter was raped and pregnant but they'll scream other people shouldn't be allowed to.
Correct. You'll end up with huge charities trying to aid people to travel, which will get made illegal, then you'll have medical clinics in RV's driving into states where it's illegal and physicians getting arrested regularly while tons of women die yearly trying to perform abortions on themselves or by incompetent friends/black market practitioners.
While all the rich hypocrites privately fly their daughter to a different state to do it while publicly saying it shouldn't be allowed bc Jesus. Just hypocritical and gross.
The Roe v Wade should be an easy cut and dry case. A woman’s body, a woman’s choice. I heard that from the knuckle draggers in regards to vaccines.
Yes, Andrew Jackson said it daring someone to stop him from ethnically cleansing portions of the country. I'm not sure that's a strong argument.
for the record i've pretty much accepted that american democracy that began in my parents lifetime will effectively end in some form or fashion in mine
Old article but just as relevant as ever, they'll find a way to rationalize it https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...ion-is-My-Abortion-an-article-by-Joyce-Arthur
You’re talking about like 32% at most of the population but they’ve manipulated the judiciary and state legislatures to far outweigh that in terms of influence. To the point where not only do they now wield the majority of power even after losing the house senate and presidency, the media finds it their obligation to 50/50 every issue.
^Yep. And the next iteration of this march to fascism won't be content to just gas protesters. They will want to subjugate any that oppose them.
So they’re setting up states make their own abortion laws so Roe vs Wade isn’t needed since the federal government can’t mandate abortion? Edit: Forgot the question mark. I’m famously not a lawyer
Correct. Rich people in red states will fly their daughters to blue states to get an abortion. Poor people are told tough luck.
They can just issue a ruling now saying it's unconstitutional for religious reasons and save everyone a lot of time and effort
What needle did they thread to justify shooting down the OSHA mandate, but upholding it for healthcare ?
That’s because the 9 justices can enact these guidelines for their own safety but workers at meat plants and factories have no control in their workplace environment and safety. Fun!
Guess restaurant workers don't have to wear gloves anymore because salmonella and other types of food poisoning aren't exclusive risks to restaurants.
They used the same legal theory that’s defined the Supreme Court since Marbury v Madison: motivated reasoning
some people who study this stuff for a living agree with daddi that the supreme court might go away if they continue down this path And, he says, if the conservative majority overturns Roe v. Wade, "as it looks like it probably will, it will be doing something the Supreme Court has never done ... in its history, and that is, reverse a fundamental right that ordinary people have enjoyed for 50 years, and say, 'Whoops, ... you never really had this right at all." The court, he maintains, "has never turned back the clock of liberty in that way before." What would be the longer-term consequence of that for the court? Perhaps nothing. It certainly seems preposterous today to imagine enough votes in Congress, especially in the Senate, to expand the size of the court and allow a Democratic president to fill the new seats. And clearly President Biden doesn't want to do that. But some constitutional scholars, like Feldman, see the kind of conservative judicial activism that is unfolding as posing a danger to the court itself not too far down the road. "Abortion, guns and religion are and will always be hot-button front page topics in the United States," Feldman observes, adding that over time, those kinds of decisions "add up," and sooner than one might imagine, there can come a breaking point. "I don't think it will happen through the drip, drip drip," he says. "I think it will happen through the tsunami. But I also think that overturning Roe v. Wade ... could well turn out to be the beginning of that tsunami."
People who jerk off to Supreme Court justices are the worst I will not stand by silently so I’ll write some words and dissent or whatever If you want to actually take a strong position say that the court should be abolished if they keep up with this shot
sorry I don't follow this thread closely but you think the Supreme Court will be abolished because people don't agree with their rulings?
I'm just telling you what people mean when they say that the SCOTUS will lose power. Like weed is federally illegal but what power does that have now?
Ask someone who owns a dispensary in a legal state that has been raided by the feds and had their inventory seized. The states themselves don’t technically enforce the SCOTUS’s decisions as is, that’s left to the federal law enforcement apparatus. Mostly, though, states are kept in check because if they pass laws that do not jive with federal laws covering the same subject matter, usually that state will start receiving less federal funding. An example I can think of is states that used to set the drinking age under the federal age of 21 would get a cut to their funding for roads and bridges and whatnot. I’m not saying the court can’t and won’t lose power, all I’m pointing out is that it’s not really the states that are keeping it propped up for now.
Solution: do a science experiment and resurrect THE FOUNDERS so they can tell us exactly how each level of judicial scrutiny (among 1000 other things) should be applied