Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. Iron Mickey

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    some of the absolute dumbest, least informed people on this board posting smug takes always makes for great reading
     
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  2. blotter

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    i'll quit the board and go fight with the Ukranian Nazis we armed and trained when that happens
     
  3. Where Eagles Dare

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  4. Lawnole23

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    in partnership with Russia's innate right to invade and/or annex territory as long as there is a majority straw poll in its favor
     
  5. Stagger Lee

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    My wife is in-house counsel overseeing the European division of her company, which has a significant presence in both Ukraine and Russia. She has weekly calls with her teams in Ukraine and Russia. Until a few weeks ago, she said the Ukrainian management team didn't think this was a serious threat. Now they are very worried. They go through regular bomb/shelter-in-place drills. Their counterparts in Russia, to this day, deny that there is any significant Russian military presence near the Ukrainian border or that there is even a remote chance that Russia will invade Ukraine. They think the news is just an anti-Russia conspiracy from the West.

    She still bitches about having to transition her Crimean employees from her company's Ukrainian to Russian subsidiaries, and how difficult that was ...
     
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    You should get your wife to mock her team, tell them to stop reading the US propaganda empowered by our war machine.

    war machine
     
  7. Andy Reocho

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  8. Lawnole23

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    I'm starting to believe there are no Russian military units there and it's just photoshopped video and pictures coming from the imperialist propaganda wing of the NATO's war machine.
     
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    all the pics are really just Call of Duty scrapes
     
  10. AptosDuck

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    Hey guys I found some contrarian bullshit on the internets that I think you all should read

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  11. Lawnole23

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    Breaking. picture of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

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  12. IV

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  13. IV

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    please don’t war of the worlds earth, thanks
     
  14. IV

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  16. buy_dont_lease

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    Way to bury the lede that your wife works for Burisma and her name is Hunter Biden.
     
  17. IV

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    imagine how strange it would be to have this conversation with your Canadian or Mexican colleagues
     
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  18. timo

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    I'm pretty sure this apparent Russian pullback from the brink of war has more to do with the new government in Germany's efforts / stepped up involvement than anything the US (or the rest of NATO) has managed diplomatically.

    A war would be an absolute disaster for the Biden Administration and the United States in general, and everyone in the world (except for some TMB users in this thread) knows it.
     
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  19. BuckeyeRiot

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    I don’t think anyone was hoping for war in here.
     
  20. Stagger Lee

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    A little ironic that Germany is the one stopping Russia from annexing territories on the grounds that part of the Ukrainian population is culturally and ethnically Russian and allegedly being discriminated against by the Ukrainian government. This feels very familiar.
     
  21. NCHusker

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  22. AptosDuck

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    Zelensky gave him a way out yesterday
     
  23. timo

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    I don't think that's the German position.
     
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    Our war machine to the world right now
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  25. pez

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    probably the same sound stage where they filmed the moon landing
     
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  26. bertwing

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    I’ve watched some “blowback” videos but they had nothing to do with foreign policy
     
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  28. CUAngler

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    I’m not worried about Russia invading Ukraine until Hell March cranks up. They haven’t even pulled the mammoth tanks out yet.
     
  29. Marty Kaan

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  30. Duck2013

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    Scholz and Germany got a little pinched when the Biden Administration came out a week or two ago and said that Nord Stream 2 one way or another would not become operational if Russia decided to invade Ukraine. Put the Germans in a position to publicly say that all options were on the table regarding the pipeline. Even tho the language they used was very muted. Reports are that in private they gave the US and NATO those assurances but weren’t all that ready to have it out there publicly, until their hand was forced.


    If the argument is that the Germans did diplomacy better today in Moscow with Scholz’s visit and drove us back from the brink of war it’s kind of a weak one.
     
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  32. Tarpon Nole

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    I am confused -

    people who don’t listen to the media because they are bought and paid for by big pharma to spread lies about the plandemic and evil dna altering vaccines are crazy

    but

    those who don’t listen to the media because they are bought and paid for by the war machine to spread false narratives about Putin and Russia about to invade are the smart people
     
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  33. blotter

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    may your confusion dawn as wisdom
     
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  34. Stagger Lee

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    Haven't kept up with it. Germany is supporting Russia? Makes sense.
     
  35. Jake Barnes

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    All contention aside, I am definitely on the train of “create the conditions where the Ukrainians can decide for themselves what to do”

    Would certainly be nice for both sides to cut out the CIA-funded coups, little green men and troop buildups and actually respect the concept of sovereignty.
     
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  36. Stagger Lee

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    My only take-aways:

    1. Russia is 100% in the wrong. It has offered no valid justification for invading a sovereign nation. Putin's article read the like the ramblings of a madman.
    2. US needs to stay the fuck out of this. Let Ukraine and its allies with treaty obligations deal with it.
     
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  37. THF

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    One concerning item was the prediction that prior to an event, Ukraine would suffer from widespread EW and cyber attacks.

    It looks like those are on as scheduled:





     
  38. THF

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  39. Jake Barnes

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    Yeah, we’re one of them.
     
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  40. beerleagueman

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    I don’t think most of this thread till it went off the rails in the last 20 hours were rooting for war or treating it like Sport. I felt a little dread anytime it was bumped bc it seemed like a major step towards a more dangerous situation for the World if it went down
     
  41. Randy Dangus

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    I’m seeing these are US war machine false flags
     
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  42. Lyrtch

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    i love posts that can be read in multiple directions
     
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  43. Stagger Lee

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    Dang. Not sure of the provisions, but perhaps an efficient breach is appropriate.
     
  44. Jake Barnes

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    Funny, I believe that was the train of thought the Russians took in 2014.
     
  45. bwi2

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    We don’t have any treaty obligations to defend Ukraine, that’s like the crux of the crisis
     
  46. Jake Barnes

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    That’s my fault then, I assumed the Budapest Memorandums functioned as treaties.

    edit: I see that the language of “assurances” does not legally entail the necessity of full military assistance.
     
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  47. bwi2

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    Right, the obligation is to take the matter to the Security Council, not to intervene
     
  48. Jake Barnes

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    Then it seems like the best option for compromise is some kind of souped-up agreement where Ukraine is off-limits to both parties in exchange for full military assistance for both from a third party.
     
  49. bwi2

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    Thats more or less the Budapest Agreements. The concept is unenforceable against Russia because of geography.
     
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  50. Jake Barnes

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    I know, that’s what’s irritating.