Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. Joe Withabee

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    Sending in airborne like that directly into the city seems like an absurdly stupid tactic, especially with thousands of armed Ukrainians just watching and waiting for them to land to fuck them up
     
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  2. Can I Spliff it

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    Yes, but their execution was hot garbage and their regulars are very new and probably envisioned heroic glory and not, like, war.
     
  3. Jake Barnes

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    Iran’s younger population is far more Pro-West than your average ME country.
     
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    Cute scope on the escape from tarkov cosplay.
     
  5. Can I Spliff it

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    I have some iranian colleagues, from the cities and the rural parts. Chillest, fun people, loving it in the US
     
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  6. WhiskeyDelta

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    But it worked so well in Market Garden
     
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  7. Beachy Toast

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  8. beerleagueman

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    remember a Bourdaine episode years ago and could see this. it’s so rare to get an insight to how their people feel
     
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  9. dblplay1212

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    I guess where I get lost is that if he's going to use a nuke bc the US/Nato step in to save Ukraine, he's going to use a nuke if we step in to help Poland, if he goes there. Maybe he doesn't go to Poland, but if he does, do we say "ahh well can't risk nuclear war so godspeed Poland"? Doubtful, right? So Poland is worth the risk but Ukraine isn't?
     
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  10. Tarpon Nole

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    a bridge too far is a very underrated WW2 movie
     
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  11. joe-

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  12. Tarpon Nole

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    Didn’t the journalist he was with in that episode disappear afterwards?
     
  13. buy_dont_lease

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    Poland is a NATO member.
     
  14. Joe Louis

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    That was Saudi Arabia, Khashogi ...
     
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  15. HoosDaMan

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    I think I watched this episode; ketchup on pizza, and they loved muscle cars.
     
  16. Gallant Knight

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    For the 1000th time no one is using a nuclear weapon
     
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  17. dblplay1212

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    Yes, I understand that. That was my point and why i used Poland as an exampme. So we'll risk nuclear war bc of that but not Ukraine? Seems shitty imo.
     
  18. buy_dont_lease

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  19. dblplay1212

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    Cool, then why not send in the Air Force to help Ukraine?
     
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  20. hoebekec

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    I’m not sure that’s entirely true anymore, the same was said about Putin was never going to invade Ukraine and here we are
     
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  21. Aaron Hernandez

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    Yes just to emphasize. This is the issue.
     
  22. Beachy Toast

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    Because that would escalate things into a shooting war with Russia.
     
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  23. Can I Spliff it

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  24. beerleagueman

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    get what you’re saying but it gives Biden and other World leaders cover at home. A nuclear standoff bc of Ukraine probably literally ends his Presidency where w Poland you have an in writing alliance that can be sold to understand the risk
     
  25. Gallant Knight

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    Because we don’t want our soldiers to get killed in Ukraine

    do some thinking before posting
     
  26. Tarpon Nole

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    We can’t keep saying this. If that was really the case, we’d shoot every Russian plane out of the sky over Ukraine
     
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  27. Imurhuckleberry

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    To be honest I thought you were responding with satire to satire.
     
  28. bro

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    What are you fucking talking about
     
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  29. bro

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    :facepalm:
     
  30. buy_dont_lease

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    I’m not going to break down the dynamics of NATO/Article 5 and the concepts of nuclear deterrence and mutual assured destruction. You can Google those for your answer.

    It sucks for Ukraine but this is the way it is. We’re helping in every way short of direct involvement.
     
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  31. bro

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    There are downsides, dangers, and risks to getting involved in a war with a country like Russia outside of getting nuked. Hth
     
  32. dblplay1212

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    I've thought about this lots, actually. As I said last night, I don't want to see US soldiers but I don't want to see tens of thousands of Ukrainians die, either. We spend 103847199174 trillion dollars on our military. Now seems like a good time to use it to be the good guys, for once.
     
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  33. BuckeyeRiot

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    They helped get him elected so doubtful.
     
  34. bro

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    We are likely providing an ungodly amount of intelligence and weaponry to our allies right now.
     
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  35. buy_dont_lease

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    Those resources are being used.
     
  36. Tarpon Nole

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    for sure, but we’re taking about an absolute crazy person. To just say “no one is going to use nukes” as a blanket answer to everything isn’t the best thing to do here
     
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  37. Tarpon Nole

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    Also

    Use nukes does not mean he’d nuke Paris or some shit
     
  38. cutig

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    Poland is a NATO member. They get attacked NATO responds. Ukraine is not, we are helping them in every way but direct interference.
     
  39. bro

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  40. Gallant Knight

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    Over $1b in aid to Ukraine over the last year

    basically going all in on sharing intelligence in a way that will take a long time to rebuild

    Sanctioning russia into oblivion
     
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  41. dblplay1212

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    Again, I know Poland is a Nato member. That's why I used then as an example. Seems shitty to let civilians die in Ukraine bc they aren't a member of Nato. "Oh well we can't risk X, Y, and Z for Ukraine. Just can't risk that!" "Oh but Poland? Oh yes we can now risk all of that!"
     
  42. Gallant Knight

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    It took a legitimate war to make me like bro

    Congrats putin
     
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  43. Gallant Knight

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    Here is some light reading on what treaties are and how they work

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty
     
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  44. joe-

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    it’s happening

     
  45. dathalfnukkahd

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    Can you shut the fuck up, you're not understanding the geopolitics of the situation and just running your fatboy mouth
     
  46. dblplay1212

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    Yes, I know they require us to step in. We can also choose to step in bc it's the right thing to do.
     
  47. joe-

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    dbl you’re doing that thing again where your big brain starts to ruin a thread that people are using for news aggregation
     
  48. southlick

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    I'll see you folks on page 114