Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. buy_dont_lease

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    Heartbreaking is the exact right word. These people are heroes and we are not worthy of the courage and conviction they have demonstrated to the world. They have put on a clinic on the will of the human spirit. I pray for Ukraine.
     
  2. Larry Sura

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    Most of the board is also in America. Calm down a little.
     
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  3. Lyrtch

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    I don't think hoping Putin loses his autocratic power in Russia makes one a neocon.
     
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  4. Shinzon

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  5. BlazingRebel

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  6. Cousin Eddie

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    Talking about "we should do a regime change in Russia" does make one a neocon.
     
  7. h.e.pennypacker

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    Something I haven’t seen talked about in here yet is African migrants in Ukraine getting denied or completely deprioritized from crossing into Poland. Fucking sucks and hope they find the means to evacuate.
     
  8. Lyrtch

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    gets into the two-step of how we've done regime changes in most countries in the past and what we're doing in response to the invasion

    not dissimilar
     
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  10. beerleagueman

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    you can find all ideological corners making an ass out of themselves …DSA America specifically looks really out of touch w the moment , saying to dismantle NATO
     
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  11. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Help me understand this
     
  12. Cousin Eddie

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    Yes exactly. But the same people who would decry these tactics in other situations are now enthusiastic supporters.
     
  13. Lyrtch

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    yes because there is currently an invasion happening

    we're not just perturbed at the leadership for not kowtowing to our business interests

    conflating the two is a little tough to square imo
     
  14. fsugrad99

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    Frankly I’m embarrassed of/for them.
     
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  15. bwi2

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    also the mechanics of the efforts to achieve the desired policy outcome are kind of important
     
  16. Cousin Eddie

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    Sure, but the delusion that we can go in and install a democratic liberal government, be greeted as saviors, blah blah blah is the same old delusion that is used to justify most regime change.
     
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  17. Tarpon Nole

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    Literally no one thinks we can go prop up who we want in Russia
     
  18. seanofthedead86

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  19. Jake Barnes

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    I must have missed something, who is suggesting that we should install it?
     
  20. Fran Tarkenton

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    based on twitter videos the Russians are having to use an assload of troops to just secure Berdyansk

    idk if they will have enough to control Kharkiv, Mariupol, Odessa, Zaporizhzhia, Dnipro, Kyiv, and Lviv without some sort of conscription (which would be a political loser) or getting significant help from their axis of autocratic nations
     
  21. One Knight

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    Just came to post this, all those videos we've been seeing from the TB-2's, that column is a fucking wet dream for the dude in Kiev on the stick
     
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  23. Shinzon

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    Pretty sure the goal is simply remove from power the psychotic narcissist that wants to take over the world and murder thousands along the way. No more, no less.
     
  24. Wicket

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    belarus will bend to russias will but what other country would do so unless russia would give up more than theyd be willing to pay, maybe im missing something but really only china has any interest of helping russia and they would always want to keep that on the downlow
     
  25. Cousin Eddie

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    I feel it's implied when people suggest that the USA should do a regime change in Russia. Just overthrow Putin and let them sort it out? Could work I guess but the downside is pretty big there.
     
  26. Joey Freshwater

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    I mean I’m not the smartest person with war tactics but would it just be absolutely dumb to ambush the convoy? I mean you know where their fuel, Intel, everything is there. A strike into the fuel could cause a major explosion and potentially cripple them right?
     
  27. Drew Swinney Esq

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    Air raid alerts are on in Kyiv.

    Not exactly sure what this means


    Seems like this is just starting to escalate :(
     
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    It’s an A-10 pilot’s wet dream
     
  29. Joe Withabee

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    What the fuck are you talking about?
     
  30. Fran Tarkenton

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    yea you are missing something with the CSTO relationships
     
  31. Fran Tarkenton

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    I feel like you ought to quote what you are referencing?
     
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  32. timo

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    yeah, this is a good thread. I've been thinking of that all day. I'm not hearing any serious negotiations going on right now, and there reallllly needs to be. Backchannel with China on this. Give Russia some way out here that doesn't involve the fall of the Ukrainian government. No one benefits if this further escalates or God help us goes nuclear, and no one can afford a massive 1980s style arms race in an era when the world needs every loose dollar and ducat for fighting a still ongoing pandemic and climate change.
     
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  33. Duck2013

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    Quite the leap to make, and make such a stink out of it when no one has explicitly argued for that in here.
     
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  34. Jake Barnes

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    A. It's a horrible idea and any regime change should be internally driven and controlled
    B. We would have to invade and take over Russia, which is p much impossible
    C. Again, WHO is saying this?
     
  35. Wicket

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    dont think other CSTO countries would make any significant difference
     
  36. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Absolutely nobody. It's some obtuse strawman nonsense.

    I don't understand what about the entire world coming together to take action against an insane despot makes some people itchy to play some bizarre game of bothsidesism
     
  37. Aaron Hernandez

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    It seems like early on they had hopes of capturing cities along the way to Kyiv. But now they’ve abandoned that and all their forces are now on course to encircling it.

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  38. Cousin Eddie

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    I'm talking about the notion that we can go into other countries and overthrow their leaders and that the successor will be someone who is going to play nice by the rules of liberal democracy.
     
  39. Joe Withabee

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    No one has argued that, you fucking weirdo.
     
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  40. a.tramp

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    I am so lost right now.
     
  41. Duck2013

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    Holy Jesus fuck. My brain is about to explode.
     
  42. beerleagueman

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    Putin has looked more unhinged , ofcourse people here rather see him take a dirt nap when he leads a nuclear power
     
  43. Joe Withabee

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    I'm thinking that's actually Randy Quaid running that account
     
  44. Tarpon Nole

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    Wut
     
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  45. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Yeah it's 30 degrees in Ukraine. That's a young girl in a tank top in the desert. Goddammit, boomers
     
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  46. Jake Barnes

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    Russia is in the Collective Security Treaty Organization with:

    Armenia
    Belarus
    Kazakhstan
    Kyrgyzstan
    Tajikistan

    They would be the only countries that would even feel motivated to send any help. There's a zero percent chance that China sends anything.
     
  47. racer

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    I’m just sad that liberal Covid polices drove very stable and brilliant vlad to take such serious and necessary actions.
     
  48. Bruce Wayne

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    I believe they have like 4 that are even combat ready. The rest are still in testing
     
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