Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. ramszoolander

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    I think it's reasonable to address one problem at a time...
     
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  12. broken internet

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    FAAFO 2: Ukrainian Boogaloo

    Russian soldier on trial asks victim’s widow to forgive him
    May 19, 2022


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    Russian army Sergeant Vadim Shishimarin, 21, is seen behind a glass during a court hearing in Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, May 18, 2022. The Russian soldier has gone on trial in Ukraine for Shitty AMC Show of an unarmed civilian. The case that opened in Kyiv marked the first time a member of the Russian military has been prosecuted for a war crime since Russia invaded Ukraine 11 weeks ago. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

    KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A Russian soldier facing the first war crimes trial since the start of the war in Ukraine testified Thursday that he shot a civilian on orders from two officers and pleaded for his victim’s widow to forgive him.

    Sgt. Vadim Shishimarin told the court that the officer insisted that the Ukrainian man, who was speaking on his cellphone, could pinpoint their location to the Ukrainian forces.

    The 21-year-old sergeant could get life in prison if convicted of shooting the Ukrainian man in the head through an open car window in a village in the northeastern Sumy region on Feb. 28, four days into the Russian invasion.

    Looking subdued, Shishimarin said he at first disobeyed his immediate commanding officer’s order to shoot the unarmed civilian but had no other choice but to follow the order when it was repeated forcefully by another officer.

    Shishimarin pleaded guilty to the charges during Wednesday’s hearing.

    On Thursday, he asked the victim’s widow, who also appeared in the trial, to forgive him for what he did.

    “I realize that you can’t forgive me, but I’m pleading you for forgiveness,” Shishimarin said.

    The woman, Kateryna Shelipova, said her 62-year-old husband, Oleksandr Shelipov, got out to check what was going on when gunshots rang just outside their home. When the shooting ceased shortly after, she walked out and found her husband shot dead just outside their home.

    “He was all to me. He was my defender,” she said.

    Shelipova told the court that Shishimarin deserves a life sentence for killing her husband but added that she wouldn’t mind if he’s exchanged as part of a possible prisoner swap with Russia for the surrendered Ukrainian defenders of the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol.

    The prosecutor asked for a life sentence for Shishimarin and the trial adjourned until Friday.

    Shishimarin, a captured member of a Russian tank unit, is being prosecuted under a section of the Ukrainian criminal code that addresses the laws and customs of war.

    Ukrainian Prosecutor General Iryna Venediktova previously said her office was readying war crimes cases against 41 Russian soldiers for offenses that included bombing civilian infrastructure, killing civilians, rape and looting. It was not immediately clear how many of the suspects are in Ukrainian hands and how many would be tried in absentia.

    As the inaugural war-crimes case in Ukraine, Shishimarin’s prosecution was being watched closely. Investigators have been collecting evidence of possible war crimes to bring before the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

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    Follow AP’s coverage of the war in Ukraine at https://apnews.com/hub/russia-ukraine
     
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  13. Mosby

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    Mostly click bait. Where was the outrage 6 months ago? Or a year ago? Has there been issues with DCAA involvement before with this company? The work this company is involved in isn't pay as you go consulting. They have have a signed contract and have been paid upfront for the work. So are they just supposed skip out on the contract and keep the money. Or are they just supposed to walk out on an agreed on, signed contract and give the money back (if they haven't already spend it) every time the US Government or public decides it suddenly doesn't like who the said company is working with? Why isn't Google (or the other big tech companies) being being crucified too for their extensive work with the Chinese (which are proxies of the Chinese government/military)? These IT companies are driving innovation for base key technologies needed for next gen platforms.

    "Defense contractors" doing work in multiple foreign counties have their workforces firewalled off from one another. I previously worked for BAE Systems. They spent a lot of time with training and communication instructions pounding into the worker bee's head that you were never ever to speak, email or make contact with your fellow BAE Systems employees in the UK and Australia. Like ever. Need to know....well was need to know. You may not like them, but our defense contractors have many safeguards plus governmental regulations and rules to follow in their contracts so product development is kept safe and secure.

    PS - And no, I've never worked with McKinsey in any manner (either directly or as a subcontractor).
     
  14. Gotch Yarbrough

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    I for one am shocked that people aren't being nice to the company that recently paid $600mil to settle their role in the opioid crisis (among numerous other embarrassing engagements).
     
  15. Mosby

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    Yes, McKinsey isn't the best to defend but I get tired of people lumping all the government contractors as evil money grabbing, no good monsters.
     
  16. Gotch Yarbrough

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    Weird time to fight that battle considering McKinsey, the only contractor referenced in the tweet/story/post, is an objectively evil money grabbing no good monster.
     
  17. Mosby

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    There has been multiple posts in this thread throwing contractors under the bus. This is just the most recent one.
     
  18. joe-

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    please be nice to the fascist enabling consultants
     
  19. Mosby

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    you forgot to add racist too
     
  20. FrankReynolds

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    Government contracting is a field not many understand unless you live in it. McKinsey has had more than a few issues with ethics, but for the most part these companies are not monolithically evil organizations.

    McKinsey is pretty close to the exception
     
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    Are we officially declaring blotter dead? Assuming he went over and was KIA?
     
  22. Aaron Hernandez

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    Memorial Day is 30 May, I feel like it’s appropriate for the board to prepare something for his memory.
     
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  23. THF

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  24. theregionsitter

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    Seems like UKR is falling back in the East rapidly to a new line
     
  25. Bricktop the white

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    there's a 100% chance that putin paid mckinsey 10 billion dollars to produce memos saying he would win this war in 10 days.
     
  26. cutig

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    Hey don't you dare disparage a government contractor
     
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  27. Doc Louis

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    It's only $100 million for each PowerPoint slide. That's a bargain.
     
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  28. HoosDaMan

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    How did they survive this?

     
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  31. WhiskeyDelta

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    God you can see the fire inside the first tank get so intense it's shooting out the barrel. What an awful way to go.
     
  32. IV

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    Truly horrific
     
  33. Shunface

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    Seems to be quite common with the RU tanks.

    Assuming it’s because of the auto loader with exposed rounds?
     
  34. WhiskeyDelta

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    Less the auto loader and more the munitions storage location directly below the crew compartment and turret, which is less armored on top, often doesn’t have active armor, and is a nice flat surface
     
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  35. theregionsitter

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    a lot of these videos are of stationary tanks/armored vehicles I kind of think they are empty

    however there are brutal moving vehicle explosions out there for both sides
     
  36. IV

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    So uh Boris is gonna die right?
     
  37. theregionsitter

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    he’s in Switzerland
     
  38. IV

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    Thats where Sherlock Holmes died, it’s not that safe
     
  39. IV

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    Shit should that be spoilered?
     
  40. enjj

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    Shit if he can get got, anyone can.
     
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  42. jplaYa

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    Russia has always struggled with keeping their tank crews alive. This reminds me of their pre-WW2 BT tank design which did not shield the fuel lines/tank and would blow up/burn the crews alive when hit by munitions (they were also gasoline and not diesel which hurt). This actually led to their T-34 design which honestly would not have happened had the designer not been both brilliant and determined.
     
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  43. fsugrad99

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    Was the weak spot glowing red like a video game?
     
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  44. jplaYa

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    No I believe it would just deflagrate but perhaps the Japanese who did it thought so since it was so easy haha.

    Taken from Wikipedia but the sourcing of the quote is a great book on Khalkhin Gol.

    “BT tanks were easily attacked by Japanese "close quarter" teams which were – in lieu of anti-tank weapons – armed with petrol (gasoline) bottles (later called "Molotov cocktails"). The BT-5s and BT-7s, operating in temperatures greater than 100 °F (38 °C) on the Mongolian plains, easily caught fire when a Molotov cocktail ignited their gasoline engines. General Georgy Zhukov made it one of his "points" when briefing Joseph Stalin, that his "...BT tanks were a bit fireprone...."
     
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  45. WhiskeyDelta

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    Even with the T34 they'd put fuel barrels on the back of the damn tank for extra range. Hell, they STILL do that to the point you can tell the difference between certain Russian tank variants by where the fuel can mounts are.
     
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    lol. That sounds like a bad plan.
     
  47. WhiskeyDelta

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