Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. Drown ‘Em

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    One of Zelenskyy’s advisors. Doesn’t seem like they are interested in avoiding humiliating Russia to stop the war.
     
  2. WhiskeyDelta

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    I'm rewatching Long Way Round and I'm on the Ukraine episode just seeing them go through these cities that are bombed out wrecks now is making me sad
     
  3. buy_dont_lease

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    It probably advances Ukraine’s negotiating position for Russia to believe, or at least believe in the possibility, that they will fight to the last. Ukraine gets to decide the terms under which it is willing to reach a peace to this war. Short of some major change to the dynamic, I’m good with us continuing to support them as much as we can. If Macron is fine looking like Putin’s errand boy because he thinks it will help achieve a peace, that’s fine too. Best to keep all options on the table and all roads to cessation of the war open.
     
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  4. Beachy Toast

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  5. WhiskeyDelta

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    katyusha rockets never go away
     
  6. a.tramp

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  8. JGator1

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    Remember reading how just the sound of them caused a not insignificant number of Nazis/Rumanians to desert.
     
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  10. Tigers

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    UK calling putin’s bluff

     
  11. Tigers

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    Keep an eye on this

     
  12. BudKilmer

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    what are the implications here
     
  13. Tigers

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    Will believe it when I see these in Ukraine but would be significant step up for Germany if it plays out. They reprogrammed them into Ukrainian and updated them to sync with Ukrainian artillery net.

     
  14. NineteenNine

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    These are the badasses that the redneck militia thinks they are.
     
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  15. Tigers

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    I think these tweets are a bit hyperbolic but kinda this:



     
  16. BudKilmer

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  17. Illinihockey

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    erdogan ethnically cleansing Syria of Kurds to relocate the 1 million Syrian refugees in turkey
     
  18. BP

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    Good news for companies in the business of war
     
  19. theregionsitter

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    Also the Turkish economy is in shambles, every politician in history starts a war to hide the economy it seems

    let’s see this play out
     
  20. Tigers

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  21. southlick

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  22. bertwing

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    The unthinkable! Why is everyone being so mean to us!
     
  23. fsugrad99

    fsugrad99 I'm the victim here
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  24. THF

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  25. Dick Dollars

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    Buddy is shedding assets left and right these days
     
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    Dude was really owning a 300 million dollar plane. Fuck.
     
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  27. Doc Louis

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    And just like that everyone's trauma from playing the top gun Nintendo game came roaring back.
     
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  28. Beachy Toast

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  29. THF

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    Well that’s an idea…
     
  30. Beachy Toast

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  31. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    In true Russian fashion, just tape it on there
     
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  32. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Guys I been wrestlin' with UncleJesse's treatise on Russian politico-cultural relativism all week, and rather than evolution, have chosen instead a state of peaceful acceptance that I just think Russia blows so much ass
     
  33. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Grateful for the reflection though. My hate feels more edified
     
  34. WhiskeyDelta

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    This is really funny for two reasons:

    1) most of the better anti-air systems the Russian navy has are just modified versions of ground based systems anyway, so this just skips a step
    2) the US is doing the opposite and creating a ground based version of their Naval SAM systems called Aegis-Ashore
     
  35. TC

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    Who knows a lot about the history of the Holodomor famine caused by Stalin in Ukraine? Would like to hear more about continuity with those times, how they play into the feelings of Ukrainians living today, how this latest attack fits into that bigger picture etc
     
  36. Gritty Badger

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    7 year old me literally never made one single successful landing
     
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  37. UncleJesse

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    Oh I want to believe.
     
  39. yaywaffles

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    if looking for more depth than a msg board post can provide. There's a chapter dedicated to the Holodomor, though Snyder's focus is broader
     
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  40. Beachy Toast

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  41. IV

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    Read “Execution By Hunger”, one of the most fucked up books I’ve ever read, Stalin just starved them on purpose, unfortunately my accompanying course materials are in storage but maybe at colonel_forbin can add a bit as he took the same class where I learned about it
     
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  42. Beachy Toast

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  44. joe-

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  45. southlick

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