Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. Artoo

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    The West has got them right where they want them. Now to just keep the trickle of foreign fighters into Ukraine going, this profitable adventure will go on for a long time.
     
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  3. WhiskeyDelta

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    Oddly the newest Russian ballistic missile submarine class is named after this guy.
     
  4. Clemson327

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    This is why we keep Ship/Missile Daddy around…the fun trivia!
     
  5. Beachy Toast

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  6. AIOLICOCK

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    :gross:
     
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  7. The Banks

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    We took in two Ukrainian refugees from Mariupol. They are great people.
     
  8. southlick

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  9. pperc

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    This worked out so well for Cuba
     
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  10. HowdyHorns

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    It has worked out so well for the Russian armed forces, economy and people.
     
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  11. Beachy Toast

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  12. Voodoo

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    That doesn’t seem good
     
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  15. WhiskeyDelta

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    The lack of Russian combined arms is still just baffling to me. Like with US operations generally if you don’t have a dedicated close air support asset, or at a bare minimum some kind of ISR overwatch asset, the mission doesn’t happen.
     
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  17. ramszoolander

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    Makes more sense when you remember that most of the troops going in are from impoverished regions and/or ethnic minorities...it's almost like genocide is what Putin and wealthy Russians do... They love that meat grinder.
     
  18. WhiskeyDelta

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    I mean yes Russian military tactics have typically been “we’ll find a good army by killing all the bad and unlucky soldiers” but they have armed ISR assets and REALLY good helicopters and so by just having a UAV loiter over a patrol until Ukraine shoots at it and then 1) hitting them with a missile or 2) following them back to base and then hitting that with a bomb they’d be making a lot of gains. They’ve been watching the US do that in Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years and Syria for ten.
     
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  19. ramszoolander

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    Something fucky going on with the Russkie air force, yeah. Seems like we should see a lot more over UKR.
     
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  20. THF

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  21. Biship

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    not worth it when ukr has fighters and all the shoulder missiles
     
  22. Biship

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    I’ve been reading more that Russia is using combined arms now in the east where they heavily outnumber defenders

    fighters believe the long range us artillery can counter much of it but not much is in place and available yet
     
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  23. ramszoolander

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    Self preservation? OK. But they have numbers to overcome that if they want. The air part of this seems very half-assed from the Russians.
     
  24. Beachy Toast

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  25. Bricktop the white

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    They've lost a shitload of planes and replacing them under sanctions is hard.
     
  26. The Banks

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    What percentage of their planes/pilots have they lost?
     
  27. Bricktop the white

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    Ukranian estimates are around ~200 planes. Most estimates place russia's total airforce (including transports,trainers, etc) at like 1500-3000 planes. That's a heavy blow especially since they can't really replace them and its unknown how many actual airworthy planes they have since russian numbers tend to be inflated by leftover unusable soviet stockpiles.
     
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  28. joe-

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    it seems like optimism is fading a bit
     
  29. Bricktop the white

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    the russians have been bragging openly about just needing to not lose until the midterms when the GOP will cut off aid.

    Up to the rest of the west to keep the weapons flowing.
     
  30. joe-

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    our ukranian friends sure do engage with some questionable people on the internet

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  31. Illinihockey

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    what are you talking about? Russia is making tiny gains in the east and losing it right back in the north.
     
  32. ramszoolander

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    That's why we need to keep putting out the news about stuff like this...

     
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  34. beerleagueman

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    don’t spend your offseason in Russia or Kentucky
     
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  35. Beachy Toast

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  36. Fecta23

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    Pretty sure it was hers
     
  37. WhiskeyDelta

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    The wing section looks dented to hell too
     
  38. HowdyHorns

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    I have seen videos of flying well above the tree line and that seems decidedly more unsafe.
     
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  40. timo

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    that's worded weirdly.

    It makes it sound like they were fighting for the Russians. They were not.

     
  41. WhiskeyDelta

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    Yeah I was very confused by that
     
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  42. NineteenNine

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    They gon get murked.
     
  43. Beachy Toast

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  44. —

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    Yikes, this could get awkward
     
  45. southlick

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