NHL Thread: Roy is War

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  1. devine

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    We are so old
     
  2. enjj

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    Ya it seems like it could have been a very sweet asset. Fack.
     
  3. bro

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  4. IrishLAX2

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    That’s pretty brutal term on that contract for a guy already showing injury concerns.

    Still a great player when he’s healthy though.
     
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  6. Mix

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    It is what it is. They might be lucky and get 1 more run in the next 2-3 years but after that its going to be so bad.
     
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  7. IrishLAX2

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    Pretty happy with the Georgiev return considering the Rangers get absolutely nothing for him in a week’s time. Basically recoups the picks they gave away in the Vatrano, Motte, and Braun deadline deals.
     
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  9. CF3234

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    Min 2 years of this deal are gonna be on LTIR
     
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  10. DeToxRox

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    Dying at #outsider
     
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  11. gowolverines8

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    avs really going test the goalie doesn't matter for us theory next year
     
  12. Irush

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    Solid return on Georgiev. Would like to see some picks packaged for a player later if possible
     
  13. Majic44

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    Who is this Georgiev and how bad is he?
     
  14. DeToxRox

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    He’a average at best.
     
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  15. CF3234

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    This would have been so bad for Ottawa
     
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  16. Illinihockey

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    duncan Keith is 38 and is toast. Letang is 35 and this contract hasn’t even started. The days of guys effectively playing into their late 30’s is over. Everyone is too fast now
     
  17. CF3234

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    Everyone involved in this deal knows it's really a 3-4 year deal but extended the term out to get the AAV down. Then when Letang goes into LTIRment, it gets sent to a tanking team that needs to reach the floor.
     
  18. enjj

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    We know.
     
  19. MJH

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    It’s weird they gave Letang 6 years but won’t go to four for Malkin. Keep them with the franchise to finish their careers and when they’re toast as players the team will get high picks out of it. I like seeing franchise players stick with one team and it’d suck to see Malkin go elsewhere.
     
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  20. IrishLAX2

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    Hopefully Drury can now dump Nemeth’s contract and one of those newly acquired picks for future considerations.

    Legit the only way all the NYR 2C rumors become even vaguely realistic.
     
  21. DeToxRox

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  22. CF3234

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    If they trade Debrincat for a late first and filler, just fold it up for the next 5 years
     
  23. Pasta88

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    These should have never left. An absolute shame they didn’t have these for the Battle of Alberta

     
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  24. Illinihockey

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    theres no chance that is what he goes for
     
  25. CF3234

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    I don't understand NJ's desperation to be win now. They are more than a Debrincat away.
     
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  26. Truman

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    Id do that. The chance of the #2 pick being as good as debrindcat is 50/50. Might as well take the sure thing.

    No chance I move a pick in next year's draft tho.
     
  27. CF3234

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    right, but Debrincat is two years away from UFA. Spending a 2nd overall on a player that may leave in 2 years if the Devils still can't get over the hump is bad asset management.
     
  28. Truman

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    Depends on the extension, obviously
     
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  29. Illinihockey

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    agreed but I’m not trading debrincat without an unprotected 2023
     
  30. Truman

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    What kind of package do you expect in return?
     
  31. CF3234

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    but they can't agree to one yet. It's the same dilema ottawa was in when they traded for Duchene
     
  32. Illinihockey

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    I wouldn’t trade him unless I’m getting a top 5-7 pick this year, an unprotected first next year, and two prospects/young players one of whom is fairly well regarded. I think they might end up with all of that but the 2023 has protections. Maybe lottery protected
     
  33. ohhaithur

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    Citation needed
     
  34. Truman

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    That seems pretty high imo. But I always have a terrible sense of what trade values are
     
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  35. Illinihockey

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    Hagel got 2 late first round picks and 2 young players. Seth Jones got two lottery picks and a lottery pick from 2 years previous. Debrincat is 24 and a consistent 40 goal scorer.
     
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  36. miles

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    Same. Take notes from Tampa and Colorado and hold off on big free agency moves/trades until you have all the important pieces in place, and give yourself as long a cup window as possible.

    I forget who said it in here but NHL GM's need a full time employee whose sole job is to smack their wrist with a ruler whenever they get impatient.
     
  37. DeToxRox

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    And once they make a move for a guy like DeBrincat, they are inevitably going to do something insane to land a goalie.
     
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  38. DeToxRox

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    Not the best use of an emoji considering all the stuff the Hawks franchise chose not to see
     
  39. teel

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    So zany to keep trolling your own fans after what you've put them through while slowly dismantling the roster
     
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  41. Truman

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    :eyeemojis:
     
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  42. DeToxRox

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    That seems fine. I have concerns about DeBrincat away from Kane but he should be a solid fit in Ottawa.
     
  43. Illinihockey

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    light for me but same concern
     
  44. CF3234

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    Debrincat is gone by the 24 deadline.
     
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  45. miles

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  46. DeToxRox

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    His QO really hurt his value too. It’s a huge number.
     
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  47. enjj

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    I can live with that. Sign Giroux and that’s a very solid top 6.
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  48. IrishLAX2

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    That’s a rough return for Chicago after apparently demanding three 1sts
     
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  49. miles

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    North of 9, right?