Uvalde, TX School Shooting

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  1. VaxRule

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    376 officers did nothing. There’s your culture of non-compliance.
     
  2. prerecordedlive

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    Ah yeah, sorry folks. Looks like these goofballs accidentally recorded America’s Got Talent over the tapes. It’s time we moved on anyway.
     
  3. prerecordedlive

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    Fucking spectacular. Fire up the “it’s the doors” talking points again. Nevermind the fact that we have to live like our teachers and kids are in a constant state of lockdown like prisoners. We can just endure that and the occasional culling of an entire classroom of children so people can play GI Joe.
     
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  4. hoebekec

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    It’ll probably be more like them going to clean the shit out of their pants or getting a couple squirts of hand sanitizer
     
  5. bro

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  6. Josey Wales

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    WE didn’t check the door because we figured YOU would’ve fixed the lock. Tsk tsk.
     
  7. bro

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    Just a bunch of garbage talking points by a partisan group of politicians.
     
  8. BudKilmer

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    Fuck every cop to hell
     
  9. (Z)

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    I mean it probably is true that most of the kids had been shot before LE arrived. But that misses a huge point of this, if that gunman was killed immediately, there is at least some possibility that some kids/teachers don’t get shot, and they get medical attention much, much earlier, and some may survive.

    Just a stupid take for them.
     
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  10. bwi2

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    Wasn't law enforcement there before he went in the building?
     
  11. Sub-Zero

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    Really cool they want to play semantics with “entered” and the reality that armed officers were at the location the whole time is quite the little move there. Cool cool.
     
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  12. bwhit21

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    The Committee has not received medical evidence that would inform a judgment about whether breaching the classroom sooner than the approximately 73 minutes that passed between the first responders’ initial arrival at the west building and their eventual breach of the classrooms could have been saved lives or mitigated injuries.
    i. As described above, it is likely that most of the deceased victims perished immediately during the attacker’s initial barrage of gunfire.
    ii. However, given the information known about victims who survived through the time of the breach and who later died on the way to the hospital, it is plausible that some victims could have survived if they had not had to wait 73 additional minutes for rescue.
     
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  13. (Z)

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    There’s been so many different lies, I honestly am not sure.
     
  14. The Banks

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    There’s 100% chance some of the kids survive if the police entered right after they got shot. 73 mins before receiving medical attention for gunshot wounds is an eternity, especially with smaller bodies.
     
  15. Lyrtch

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    its weird to say the latter while trying to still give the cops the benefit of the doubt in the former
     
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  16. Eathan Edwards

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    How damn high do they want the fence to be? I feel like 5 feet is a pretty normal height for a school unless we're just building straight up prisons at this point.
     
  17. Doc Louis

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    Great question! At fenceco they recommend a10' high double fence with the optional razor wire addon.
     
  18. BudKilmer

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    this is what they want
     
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  19. Redav

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    That's nuts that 376 LEOs were there and did nothing for an hour. Wtf?
     
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  20. Eathan Edwards

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    Do any TMB attorneys know if there is any legal precedent for this? Like how many people will potentially get charged - if bystander law or some contract from working in a police department applies when the guy has an automatic rifle etc. ?
     
  21. electronic

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    Not familiar with Texas law, but I don’t believe there is any legal requirement for cops to actually do much of anything. The town/department will probably pay out shit loads of settlement money in civil suits, though.
     
  22. Eathan Edwards

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    I don't believe you - the taxpayers are going to foot the bill and no one will be held accountable???

    Such a thing could never happen.
     
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  23. electronic

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    Don’t worry, the cops will get more tanks or something.
     
  24. prerecordedlive

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    There was an armed LEO on scene AS the gunman entered the school. He radioed for permission to engage after the gunman fired rounds at good samaritans that tried to check on him after he crashed his truck into the ditch.

    They’re just rewriting the day’s events as they see fit. It’s incredible to witness moral bankruptcy proceedings.
     
  25. electronic

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    Why would he need permission to shoot an active shooter walking into a school? Every lie these dipshits make up ends up looking worse.
     
  26. Hoss Bonaventure

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    They can shoot a suspect for running away from a traffic stop for expired tags but they can’t shoot a person they see with a gun walking into a school. Got it.
     
  27. NoNatty

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    Well, considering the distance and the context it’s fair to assume they thought he was white.
     
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  28. prerecordedlive

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    Aside from probably lying about radioing for permission, you know exactly why.
     
  29. Hoss Bonaventure

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    “Yessir, a possible Caucasian male with a gun just entered the school.”
    “Well, hold up a minute. Maybe he’s just going in there to show these kids the importance of the second amendment.”
    “True”
     
  30. Eathan Edwards

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    That's going to be a hell of an argument between the supervisor that left his radio for expedience and the guy that thought he needed approval to prevent a shooter from entering a school.
     
  31. Redav

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    Compare this to the talking points we get when a minority gets executed by the police for no real reason. Like it's the exact opposite defense given here
     
  32. Eathan Edwards

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    They didn't "fear for their lives" because they ran and hid.
     
  33. TAS

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    Apparently this is not true, and the cop actually was looking at a coach escorting kids into the building

     
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  34. You

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    “…the ALERRT staff conducted no investigation on their own and relied entirely on information supplied by the Department of Public Safety.”

    It’s kind of difficult to trust the LEOs involved in this event, and DPS did not seem to be honest concerning the events of this shooting. I don’t think I’ll believe anything said from the people involved without video or radio evidence
     
  35. electronic

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    It is not unique to this event. With the ubiquity of cell phone cameras, cops have been regularly shown to have lied about circumstances when even the slightest bit of scrutiny is applied, like the ridiculous fentanyl exposures, George Floyd, etc.
     
  36. ashy larry

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    this is great. comparing you unfavorably to the Alamo is the texas equivalent of Godwin’s law
     
  37. (Z)

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    I'm not giving the cops benefit of the doubt. I think every cop that was in that hallway for more than 1 minute should be charged criminally.

    Just from watching that video, there was an incredible amount of shots fired as soon as he enters the classroom. I think from that, it is very likely that most of the kids were shot almost immediately. Doesn't change anything. It certainly doesn't even begin to justify their behavior.
     
  38. Artoo

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    Can't wait for the next school shooting where, in an attempt to not end up looking as bad as the Uvalde police, officers on scene take it upon themselves to storm into the school cowboy style. This will result in one of two things. 1. Cops firing at everything, killing teachers and kids themselves. Or 2. Cops get into a prolonged firefight with what turns out to be other cops.

    I'm really hoping it's the 2nd one.
     
  39. Whammy Business

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    I think it depends largely on department policy. After Parkland, a whole bunch of mays in department policies became shalls. “May” is an option; “shall” is a command.
     
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  42. Shinzon

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    “Police say officers tried calling Connie’s phone and looked for her car. But since Connie didn’t answer the door, officers ultimately left.”

    Stand around and do nothing while people die. Pffft hold my beer.
     
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  44. Eathan Edwards

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    Also this guy could have literally just walked out the front door afterwards if not for telling a neighbor to call the police on himself.
     
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    I hate my state sometimes
     
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    It should probably be more
     
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