And we got guys on here complaining about high "feels like" temps of 91 and how it's too hot to go outside
Just sent off a $62k proposal for equipment only (no lights) on a residential pool that will need about another $20k from other trades to complete. Enjoy your pool problems, they ain’t like this guys I am sure!
What about blind dog? I'm pretty sure he might drown in a 4 foot deep pool sober if he's standing still
well, we got our first fuck ups, and they are pretty major. The bench area for the table is the wrong height. Needs to be raised about 5 inches. Also the steps and the sundeck are supposed to be flush and they aren't. As you can see in the pic above, the step is like 1.5 inches higher than the sun deck. To say I'm pissed would be an understatement. My company is currently having a meeting with the designer, project manager, and CEO to figure out how they are gonna fix these pretty substantial fuck ups.
I feel for you. We’ve been documenting all the issues of our build. Just a couple small things left. We sent the company our email of what we’d like to make us feel happy and recommend them. We’ll see what they say. Good luck. I’m just glad we’re swimming in ours now. Never building a pool again.
This is why you never write that last check until you are happy. Once the money is in hand you go down the priority list of the builder. When our project manager came for ours we just handed him the list & walked the pool for him to document while telling them we would pay upon completion.
Hi all, glad I stumbled on this thread. Question for you all about heaters - are they worth it if you don't have a cover? When our pool was built we opted to not do an automatic cover and not do a heater at the time (2 years ago). The pool guys said that without a cover a lot of the heat would escape at night. We're in central Kansas so it would be nice to be able to open it earlier in the spring and extend it later in the fall. When we had the electricity run we allowed for extra capacity for future use so we're covered there. Thoughts? pic of pool for reference
We had a gas heater in texas and it's super expensive to run. Electric would have to be a real kick in the balls, no?
Everyone told me horror stories about how much my heater was going to cost to run. It's been cheap af, and that was before my handsome pool guy installed a more efficient one. Had a leak during that huge snowstorm and was advised by tramp to run the heater nonstop or my equipment would be toast. Was like 60/80 dollars more than normal bill for running it 24/7 for 5 or 6 days
I'll be damned. My moderately attractive pool guy who was likely referred by your handsome one told me stories of people forgetting to turn it off overnight and getting a mortgage payment size bill. Told my wife it was broken for most of our time at that house
Russell High School grad here. So using a heater as you describe is not super expensive. The main cost from doing such comes in the spring. When you initially heat it up. That is where the majority of gas consumption comes in. But once it is up to heat, it does not cost so much to maintain temperature. If you have a Jandy or Pentair automation system, they have a feature that does just that. The “maintain temp” feature monitors the water temp outside of regular scheduled filter run time. And kicks the system on as needed to keep the pool at temp. Or if you do not have that, it still can be done by being smart about when you run your filter pump. If you change it to run from midnight to middle of morning, it will be heating during the coldest part of day and then boom, sun comes out and helps keep pool temp up during day while filter shuts off. Of course, once hot weather comes around and heater goes off, I recommend to go back to daytime filtering.
Thanks for the info. Russel has a nice little golf course! Sounds like you'd recommend gas over electric? I think I could get a gas line to the pump pad easy enough. We do not have automation at this point but would love it in the future. What is your thought process around filtering during the day in the summer?
Yes, gas is way better than electric for what you are using it for. If you were using it year round, an electric heat pump/chiller HVAC style unit might make sense. Yes, I recommend filtering during the day in summer.
Awesome. Is there a particular model you'd recommend? Our pool is 20x40, 5.5ft deep, 26k gallons. Also speaking of automation, is there a model you'd recommend? We have a led pool light, 6 water features, and bubblers on the sun deck. Thanks again for your help, I've read through this thread and have learned a lot!
For automation, Pentair IntelliCenter or Pentair EasyTouch. Both have a controllable screen at equipment pad as a redundancy to accommodate the phone app. For the heater, Pentair MasterTemp 400k btu, HD model if you ever intend to heat year round. There is both a propane and a natural gas model.
my heater is only 127k btu. but also florida. So I should be fine. Feeling very inadequate right now though.
Yeah it is fine for Florida. But in central Kansas, it is a little bit different. It snowed out our last baseball game of the season our last week of school my senior year. And nights are considerably cooler. The 125k model heater is 82% efficient. The 400k model is 84% efficient. The 400k HD with cupro-nickel heat exchanger that stands up better to heavy usage, high water-flow, and low pH has the same 82% efficiency as the 125k model.
I wouldn’t really recommend it. Very high likelihood of catastrophic freeze damage if something goes wrong and is not immediately mitigated.