Bingo. One on one? Throw it. Literally try some shit that everyone else in CFB does, just to see what happens.
The recruiting class will get raided. He will go to usc too I bet. What a disaster this is. That’s what you get when you lose to Marshall and when you look like a mediocre pac12 team.
Is Love supposed to commit soon? If we beat UNC and Love commits, we can take a deep breath going into the bye week. If we lose and he keeps looking, we'll have a lot of gasoline on the fire going into BYU weekend
I don’t know about raided. They can sell the shit out of playing time where it matters. The defense has been playing well so I don’t see many there. The only real question is wide receiver. I’m never gonna lose sleep off of OL. Most are 2-3 years away from an impact so you can take a flyer and develop a guy.
Always weird that when ND loses a couple games the class is always going to fall apart. I wonder if SEC schools that win 6 games a year worry about it as much as y’all. I’m ready for all the bags talk, but Jesus guys. ND usually loses 2-3 games a year and it doesn’t hurt much. Just fucking depressing in here.
I'm emotionally attached to the receivers because that's pretty clearly the biggest talent gap between us and the competition, other than QB which lol of course we don't have a solid 2023 QB I'd be really bummed if that WR room falls apart but with Keeley and Bowen already gone, not sure what else I'd be really bummed about
I’m a bipolar sports fan. I’ll be exactly where you are after the first incompletion Saturday. All good my Canadian brother.
An OL wavering after a shaky start to the season is hardly a reason to raise your blood pressure guys. Of all position groups to be concerned about, that's damn near the least. He was hardly committed in the first place if this is what shakes him and changes his mind.
He doesn't have a date set, but the word is his family wants to wrap it up this month and his visits are done, which I think bodes well for ND.
The number one way to recruit (or negative recruit) is based around winning football games. It’s why Kelly was able to put zero work in and still land classes around #10 every year. And also why someone like Kevin Sumlin got his classes raided every year after a few losses. This is why hiring a coach that can win first is always the priority. Then it’s about raising the ceiling with someone who can hopefully recruit on top of winning. But the winning needs to be priority one. Because the best recruiter in the world is going to lose their class after 4+ losses.
The difference here is that Freeman is new to this and everybody was waiting to see if he could be a head coach. So far, and I know it’s too early, the answer is no. To a recruit making a decision that will impact the rest of his life it’s a huge gamble. Sark is somewhat comparable to Freeman but so far they have looked so much better than nd and he can hang his hat on the bama coaching job he did.
And I’m sure we’ll stick around 15 too. But to stay within the top 5 - where there’s a major talent advantage - you need to win football games. Being top 15 in recruiting is not a big deal. We’ve had classes around that level that absolutely stunk ass once they hit the field.
Two of those were top five and combined for 12 losses. Get in the game financially and this is such a non issue. Teams that spend money can cover up losses. ND will still win and simply needs to be at the table. That would be the case if they were 12-0 every year. It’s in South Bend. You have to be creative.
No matter how you want to spin it, its pretty bad that we're arguably already at 5 decommits if you include silents (Moore and Hannafin) and we're going to see our de-commits sprayed all over the place which means everyone has the same negative recruiting pitch and its landing Couple that with the fact that the real pain may not have started yet (we probably have a better chance to be 3-6 than 6-3 in a few weeks) and Michigan is probably going 11-1 but hasn't really woken up their recruiting machine yet and Freeman/Rees feasted on a bunch of Michigan/ND toss-ups the last few months that went ND quickly, and the '23s and '24s can get ugly potentially
Everyone just wants to be unhappy. Best not to fight it. We need some of that Thoros of Beer happiness to rally the troops.
I’m on the road to North Carolina, they only lose important games that I attend on the road so this one should be safe.
Honest question - how many other teams have three public de-commits this cycle? It seems rare but I don't follow other teams' recruiting that closely
Yeah, the negativity right now is a bit over the top. Decommits happen to everyone and are commonplace. Period. Full stop. We are 1-2 instead of 2-1. We've got clear issues on offense but the team can and will evolve. I'm not sure what to tell you if you're already convinced the team/season/class/staff are irredeemable. Not every bit of bad news is a sign of deeper issues. Shit does happen. But hey, what do I know.
The thing is, this team is in the same damn spot as a lot of Kelly teams, Kelly was just on a ridiculous ride of coming out on to on coin flips. Is the Marshall game really that different than: Toledo last year Louisville 2020 Ball St/Vandy 2018 2019 was the only year that was pretty clean with every game going kinda how it was supposed to go And Marshall this year is probably better than all of those other teams.
100% this, it was the "Kelly" clunker. We have massive warts but this is not new territory. Kelly would tie this thing together and save 9 wins. Let's see what Free does.
It's also just a game played by unpaid teenagers and 20 somethings. Have a drink, smoke a joint, spend time with your loved ones. Put down your phones, live your life. God bless.
Swarbrick should have countered Weis' offer to shit can himself to OC with Muschamp with QB coach + playcaller This. I am every bit the psychopath that posts here on gameday, but if life at 40 pulls me away for a week it's almost liberating.
It's not hard to negatively recruit against an offense that looks as appealing as an elephant's butthole.