Perhaps if the person is so focused on Bay Area/faang brands. I think there is more than enough fully remote engineering jobs out there for literally every Twitter engineer to have a new gig in a month or less if they take the time. Now, change is hard and I’m sure many are demotivated from the shit show already so won’t have the energy for a search. So they will click yes and…not be hardcore and see what happens. The only people clicking yes and being hardcore are the very small percentage of musk fans who already work there. Musk is doing everything wrong to build a team and culture. Literally everything. I lead an engineering org of >65 people so trust me.
He's talking like he's running a pre IPO start-up where everyone works their dicks off because they believe in the product and the potential for a huge payday when the company goes public and their stocks vest. That shit wont work at a private company where you attempt to change the work place culture overnight and expect everyone to grind for no compensation or future potential.
I work in Tech finance and we've cut back open roles in our ~4k person org but still have about 200 left. I suspect others are similar in that it's not the hiring bonanza it once was but it's not like we stopped needing engineers, architects etc
Whammy must have me blocked because I can’t see his post insisting that the best part of enjoying any drink is being forced to hold the glass in between sips
For all the talk about "actually it's tough for tech people to find jobs" I think that's true if you're someone without much experience or in a very specific field. They might not be the best jobs, but I'm still getting tons of messages to my inbox and LinkedIn account about software/data engineering jobs. I think BIG companies naturally used this time to downsize some, but it doesn't seem yet (at least *knocks on wood*) that it's incredibly bad all across the board.
That's because those jobs are the last to go. There are tons of headlines about layoffs in the FAANG companies. But very few are software jobs. Most are support staff, sales, marketing ect.
Lol, here was the argument that didn’t convince the opposing counsel. Musk is arguing that an SEC consent decree is invalid because Tesla was forced into it under duress. Lol
Right, I'm addressing the point that's been made a couple of times that these Twitter software engineers (the ones that weren't fired in the beginning) might actually be kind of screwed due to the market being shitty. They'll likely be fine unless we really are at the start of a big recession.
I really thought Whammy was being funny with his first couple of posts today, but it turns out he remains a moron. Good luck getting new employment covenants to stick without additional comp in... ((checks notes))... employer-friendly California?
Yup. It takes the hard work of reading beyond the headlines but you’re exactly right about who is getting laid off lately.
Speaking of which, I'd love to know what Elon would have to do to say even one slightly negative thing about him
You mean to tell me that they weren't going to overhaul their balance sheet $8 at a time? I AM SHOCKED
Those that stay will leave once they have a better option and many will leave because they can afford to take some time off and don't live paycheck to paycheck.
I did enjoy how Whammy would never respond to dblplay1212 wrt being a hand-me-down CEO. Oh, and also still dropping the R word like it's 1995
Na, I have no idea. Just an assumption based on the way he is. He wouldn't answer so I assume I was right. He's never put in a real day's work in his life and it shows in his views.
He started this business network on his own and all 75 of his sales folks at Advocare are extremely happy they are able to be their own boss, where how hard you work determines how much money you make!
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Absolutely! Tech -ne faang/Bay Area. I’d take the 3 months in a heartbeat because i’d find at least the same as what I got now in < 3 months.
I mean, do you disagree? It's not wild conjecture, there is an established pattern / playbook to work from re: tech employee comp. The media is just running from headline to headline - I don't trust their reporting to be complete, it's more likely it isn't complete than it is. You work in the tech industry lol, you think top performers won't be rewarded in some way? Use your brain. Just off the top of my head, a number of different board luminaries in this thread were confidently predicting Twitter was about to be sued into oblivion for violation of Federal employment law and the California Warn act due to the manner in which layoffs were conducted. Breathless journos, quoting twitter experts (posting for engagement), saying how dumb this was being executed when it took me 3 minutes of googling to see that the maximum penalty was 60 days of salary which was covered by the severance lmao. Here we are, two weeks later, not a peep from the media or any of those "attorneys," who were just chomping at the bit to sue twitter two weeks ago. Half the shit they're talking about today will be memory-holed in a week due to it going nowhere but the content machine has to be fed and clout has to be collected. I'm sure there are quite a few more gems. Thx for reminding me of that though