With that said I am going to allocate another $37B to police officers, because more funding is the only way to address this problem, trickle-down policing. - Biden and every democrat
if I'm even a second cousin of any of them, I'm out of my house for the next month and looking for a new spot. hope their family is doxxed immediately and hey, whatever happens, happens.
As bad as the unprovoked violence is to witness, it’s equally terrifying that he was completely calm, obeying orders, and voicing to them that he wanted to comply (exactly what the police say you should do in those situations), and they still murdered him.
The tiny town I live in has a unit like the units in Baltimore and Memphis. The small town units like those will never be caught, even though they do the same shit. They get away with it because these towns are too poor to have cameras everywhere. I know the head of the one here personally (not friends), and he is a massive piece of shit who brags about the stops and arrests they make on fb. The MAGA crowd eats that shit up and praises everything they do.
Public live streaming of all body cam and all of the police personal info in an accessible public database would do a lot to curb violence and harassment
There's going to have to be a war inside precincts. The supposed good cops are going to have to start exposing the shit cops and stop being complicit by turning their head. Qualified immunity has to go too.
well, I don't know about live, like, as it's happening for a whole bunch of reasons. Like if the cops come up on the victim of sexual violence, you want that to be live streamed?
If a woman calls in that a man just broke into her home and she's afraid she's going to be raped, who should go to her house?
But to answer the question, privacy requests from the subjects would probably need to be a part of it. I guarantee that anyone in a position to be harmed wouldn’t request the streaming to be stopped.
Hopefully everyone in your family is an upstanding citizen. I’m with you on whatever punishment you can come up with for the officers. But the families part is a bit much. Hard to hate that cops don’t follow the law when “guilty by association” is all it takes to justify violence.
Which means, even if true, they believe they can hide behind the badge when given the chance to. That’s a horrifying thought.
Properly trained officers with the proper tools to handle the situation. If they’re intervening in a violent event that’s much different than showing up after the fact.
I get the idea as it pertains to the first part, but blurring and bleeping out people’s faces and information in real-time would be impossible. Maybe they just have an additional camera that blurs everything and doesn’t have any audio?
Yea I think he was asking if a cop showing up a rape in progress should be streamed, not the interview of a rape victim after the fact. Idk about streaming but cops should 100% wear a bodycam at all times and any tampering or funny business is an immediate termination. They have hundreds of billions in funding. Pass on a tank and buy cameras and servers to store all interaction for 5+ years.
Far too many stories of people doing exactly that and getting absolutely railroaded. I don’t even know what it looks like realistically but it’s gotta be top down from the executive and societal pressure to make any kind of difference. Even then I don’t know how much difference it makes. There’s hundreds of years of inertia.
Would it? Remember when police mandatory wearing of body cameras in general was going to lessen police violence? It hasn’t worked. They do not care. Whatever incremental advancements in reform achieved will not work. The shit is systemic.
There shouldn’t even be a mechanism for turning on and off the camera. Also, the camera should be able to upload to some sort of third party server. It’s absurd that they get to take their camera to the station to offload the files. The amount of funny business that goes on during even that process is absurd.
Just to clarify - I have no specific knowledge that either of those stories is true. I do know that both are stories that are circulating in Memphis.
hard to care about the cops and their families when "breathing" is all it takes for cops to justify violence.
Oh I agree. I had two cops harass one of my employees (Hispanic male) and then I walked up and they just scattered. They were patting him down in a grocery store parking lot and demanding him show them a receipt for the two cases of water he was carrying. I had just bought the water and then I walked back in because I forgot something and gave him the keys. When I asked why they were harassing him, they said he refused to show them a receipt. I said he didn't have to show them anything. They smiled and said have a good day and left. I was going to go file a complaint, but I have company trucks driving around in that municipality all day every day. I knew that would come back to haunt me, so I just let it go, and now I've contributed to the problem. It's a terrible police department that needs to be checked, but they have too much power for me to jeopardize my business for.
As of now they can do whatever they want then fight the release of the evidence. If they have public oversight in the moment they aren’t afforded that same safety net that the rest of the system will burry what they’re about to do. And with accurate real time info there can be intervention.
I got that you were just relaying information. I was just trying to point out that, even if 100% true, it says a lot. It wouldn’t make it any more palpable for me. It would just reinforce what we already know.
You don’t see the hypocrisy in that? Replace “cop” with any racial slur, and you’ll sound exactly like the type of officers that fill this thread.
Yea sorry saying people that weren't involved at all should suffer is too far for me. These fuckers should be thrown in gen pop asap though.
It’s recommending fighting terrorism with terrorism. When reform gets denied every time, the desire for change doesn’t go away. It just manifests in more violent demands.
I get that for sure. Said it poorly, but was trying to say that blind hate like that is a bit hypocritical.
That video is horrific. The cops are just passing him around to get bludgeoned in the face, just gross.
Randy Quaid is an extremely troubled man who believes things he reads on the internet. I'm mostly mad at the people who sell hate to the gullible rubes like Ben Shaprio. Tho I don't care for the rubes either.
i’m not even sure who my second cousins are i don’t think i should have my house burned down on account of them tbh
So he ran from a brutal beating and got 3 blocks from his mom's house until the mob caught him and killed him? That's some gang movie shit, which I guess is appropriate. I feel awful for his family. His mother will hear his cries for help in her sleep until the day she dies.
My mom took over for my grandfather's car repair shop that was wildly successful (and put the first AC unit in a car in Knoxville) before he intentionally ran it into the ground right before he died because he was a fucking asshole. And one of her mechanics would always say that the local cops would pull him over and beat the fuck out of him behind a building just for sport cause he sold/smoked weed. The other mechanic told her to never trust anyone with a Jesus bumper sticker. Wise and troubled men.
The light pole camera, is that a motion sensor that turns to motion? It started off one direction and then turned to where the commotion was. I assume that's just based on motion?