DotA 2: -APEM pros only go fast!

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  1. Handcuffed

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    no posts in two months feelsbadman

    watched tundra today. they are super fucking good, obviously.

    some weird team called Shopify Rebellion played after the tundra/eu game... what a joke that arteezy and the biggest na names are playing for a team called that
     
  2. Poetic

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    NA dota is dead, and also my interest in watching it mostly. EG made me love dotes, what a sad state of affairs.
     
  3. RonBurgundy

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    Go 5ratforcestaff imo
     
  4. skiedfrillet

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    Nigma may be the worst professional Dota team i've ever watched.

    just hilariously awful in all facets of the game
     
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    anyone watching the major? streams aren't great but it's the first major with good hours in a long while.

    only day 1 but china looking rough and na looking pretty good (incl quinn on gg)
     
  6. miles

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    It's pretty wild how much the perception of Quinn has changed over the past year or so. He's always getting name dropped by other top mids as one of the hardest to play against. (Also moved to Europe and immediately hit top 5 MMR in the region)

    GG first phase picks his hero almost every game so he gets shit matchups and still performs well.
     
  7. RonBurgundy

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    “Remember when I kicked you” remains one of my favorite dota related pieces of content
     
  8. RonBurgundy

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    Esports is dying tbh. Money is dying up. Interestingly, dota probably is least affected since it’s almost entirely fan funded through TI prizepool
     
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  9. Bricktop the white

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    time for dota 3
     
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  10. Name P. Redacted

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    Having this major on (from my extremely casual view) the same patch as TI is a huge miss from Valve.
     
  11. RonBurgundy

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    I haven’t played or watched dota in a month +. This patch is stale now. We need map changes now
     
  12. Bricktop the white

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    roll it back to ti2 patch
     
  13. Name P. Redacted

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    Plz no
     
  14. Bricktop the white

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    the wolf is at your door
     
  15. Name P. Redacted

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    Just ward his jungle
     
  16. Bricktop the white

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    JUST TP OUT
     
  17. Name P. Redacted

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    Holy shit just remembered tp scrolls took an inventory slot, were expensive, observers and sentries didn’t stack and obs wasn’t free. One courier the 5 had to buy and upgrade. Those were dark times.
     
  18. RonBurgundy

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    Position 5 was miserable.

    buy chicken.
    Upgrade.
    Wards expensive.
    4 inventory slots were obs, sentry, tp and dust. Maybe smoke. Brown boots and wand at 20 minutes. Stacking didn’t give stacker any shared gold.

    miserable.

    also how did we ever play dota with 1 courier per team.


    Best position 5 patch (arguably is now) was the patch where almost every support had dieback reduction and gpm talents. You could die mid game and have like 10 second death timer. PLUS high ground had shrines/mini fountains.
     
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    all of that is true re: shitty gaming experience

    but all of that is why dota was such a good game and is more of a brawler now with less strategy. there's such little timings now with drafts, everyone gets farm, etc.
     
  20. RonBurgundy

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    It’s also why players like ppd are less valuable. 5s have so much more farm, levels and items that they have more impact mid and late game. Back pre TI6, position 6 were glorified coaches/drafters who just casted their spells and died.

    people would be miserable going back to poverty meta but even old pros like synderen say there’s too much gold on the map and he’s said many times he’d love to see the trend reversed
     
  21. miles

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    It's weird seeing Chinese dota suck now. Steady downward trajectory for a couple years, but now it looks like they don't even have 1 team that's a threat to win majors. Seems like all the old guard retired and there's no one to replace them.
     
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    Reddit says all the young gamers are doing mobile games
     
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    disaster major so far. 1.5 matches played today.

    Screen Shot 2023-02-28 at 2.05.png

    yep yep yep. depressing.
     
  24. miles

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    It's been almost 12 hours since the day started and they haven't even finished the 3rd 3 game series yet, because PC's keep crashing and causing massive delays. This is a disaster of a day.
     
  25. Handcuffed

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    rtz's best bo3 at a major?
     
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  26. RonBurgundy

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    only saw highlights but man did he play well
     
  27. Handcuffed

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    quinn about to win a major as GG goes up 2-0. and if i'm jinxing it then it means zai wins another major. can't lose as an optic fan.

    new patch + hero announced tomorrow.
     
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  28. miles

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    Quinn is probably gonna win MVP. Never would have expected that 2 years ago.

    SVG said over the last couple years he played a ridiculous amount of 1v1's with Sumail and now he's one of the best laners in the game.
     
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    just reading the website but the new hero's second skill seems absurd

    that's a gigantic aoe slow/attack slow

    edit and it silences holy shit
     
  30. Name P. Redacted

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    Her ult seems eh

    also lol 7.32e what the fuck
     
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    yeah, her entire kit seems pretty underwhelming. especially her ult. magic-damage right-click carry who does nothing to bkb targets? ehhh. i just think that giant aoe spell on a 20 sec cd is silly.

    i'm excited they fixed turbo mode. maybe i'll even re-download the game.
     
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  32. RonBurgundy

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    I’m not redownloading until there’s a new map**
    (Or huge gameplay changes)

    people have wanted a new right click carry for awhile. Kit looks p basic
     
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    The dead shot ability bouncing of units/trees could be pretty cool.
     
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  34. RonBurgundy

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    Turbo changes do look very good
     
  35. miles

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    Basically the entire division 2 chinese scene just got VAC banned, and about half of division 1 for match fixing or cheating.
     
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  36. RonBurgundy

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    #JustChineseThings.

    seriously, Chinese culture is supportive of cheating as long as you don’t get caught. American universities deal with this all the time
     
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    downloaded dota again

    two turbo matches, two wins. still got it!
     
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    4 man gobble up yummy
     
  40. Handcuffed

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    I should fucking hope so given how long it’s been.
     
  42. Handcuffed

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    from reddit:
    "The spanish stream had an interview with K1 and he said that in the next patch there will be 2 roshans and that iron talon will be back in the game."

    also, that scofield rubick in game 2 of eg-bc was perhaps the most impactful support game i've ever seen. highly encourage people to find it.
     
  43. Name P. Redacted

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    2 Roshans we league now
     
  44. RonBurgundy

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    I’d be super happy with junglers back in meta. Solo offlane was always a challenge, couldn’t play carries from the offlane
     
  45. Name P. Redacted

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    Jungle Cm back in action
     
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  46. RonBurgundy

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    I installed again and played some this week. As a support, force staff feels so good every single game, saving allies or yourself.
    I can pretty much go blink and force and feel super impactful on almost every support
     
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    Mobility is good
     
  48. RonBurgundy

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    Patch day today. Very interested to see how big of a shake up it is for the pro scene. Wonder if Tundra or GG's style is destroyed by patch
     
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