Detroit Lions: Alexa, play “Last Resort” by Papa Roach

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  1. DetroitNole

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    Guaranteed is 11 m v 8 m.
     
  2. Brocktoon

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    Both total and guaranteed are 30ish% less than. I thought we were told the signed Montgomery because both sides were "far apart" This suggests Holmes just valued him more.
     
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  3. DetroitNole

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    As much as I love jamaal, Montgomery is probably enough better to warrant the slightly more money
     
  4. DeToxRox

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    Montgomery is likely going to lead our team in carries this season. He was signed to start.
     
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  5. Vinegar Strokes

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    Montgomery > Williams. Let’s move along here. It was a good signing
     
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  6. DetroitNole

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    Reported Lions visits
    QB Anthony Richardson, Florida (NFL Combine)
    QB Aidan O’Connell, Purdue (Pro Day)
    RB Evan Hull, Northwestern (Pro Day)
    WR Quentin Johnston, Texas (NFL Combine)
    WR Jayden Reed, Michigan State (NFL Combine)
    WR Antoine Green, North Carolina (NFL Combine)
    TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa (NFL Combine)
    TE Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State (NFL Combine)
    OT Darnell Wright, Tennessee (NFL Combine)
    OT Quinton Barrow, Grand Valley State (Pro Day)
    T/G Jordan McFadden, Clemson (NFL Combine)
    G Antonio Mafi, UCLA (Top 30 visit)
    G Chandler Zavala, NC State (Top 30 visit)
    DL Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern (Pro Day)
    LB Trenton Simpson, Clemson (NFL Combine)
    LB Noah Sewell, Oregon (NFL Combine)
    LB DeMarvion Overshown, Texas (Lions LB coach Kelvin Sheppard at Pro Day)
    CB Cory Trice, Purdue (Pro Day)
    S Jammie Robinson, Florida State (NFL Combine)

    Although this doesn't appear updated with us apparently having people at UGA.pro day

    www.prideofdetroit.com/platform/amp/2023/3/3/23622661/2023-nfl-draft-detroit-lions-visit-tracker-combine-top-30-pro-day

    Using two Combine visits on Richardson and Johnston are the most interesting ones to me. Maybe they do something unexpected this draft
     
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  7. Randy Bobandy

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    That’s not the point. I wouldnt have paid either guy what they got.
     
  8. Brocktoon

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    Don't disagree. Was more pointing out that Detroit sports media told us Montgomery was the backup plan because Williams was too expensive. But that clearly wasn't true.



    Most surprising thing about the situation is you appearing to pass on a chance to shit on our local media again.
     
  9. Brocktoon

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    It's a work. He's trying to ensure he drops to Detroit.
     
  10. DeToxRox

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    At this point it’s fair to assume Carter is not draftable for us. I do think it’s possible the changes, but it’ll require Carter doing something drastic (his own individual workout closer to the Draft maybe?). I assume Carter will be one of our 30 pre draft visits as well, so maybe he can clean himself up and knock the visit out of the park. It seems unlikely right now though.
     
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  11. Tug

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    Aiden O’Connell in the 3rd/4th and then no more QB worries
     
  12. DeToxRox

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    Holmes was adamant he would upgrade the backup QB position, and to this point we haven’t been linked to any FA QB. I feel like the backup QB market is slowly taking shape with Winston and Walker signing deals, but if our plan is to address the backup spot in FA, I believe these are the best remaining options:

    Bridgewater - probably cost prohibitive
    Mariota - seems like a decent fit
    Minshew - Probably cost prohibitive

    I am sure there are others, but of the guys available that are clearly upgrades, there isn’t much out there.

    So if the plan is to address the position in the draft, and we aren’t taking a QB at six, our options are basically:

    Hooker: I am intrigued despite his age and injury, but if four QB go top ten, does a team panic and take him late in the first to get the fifth year option?

    McKee: he’s fine, and he’s a better athlete than his numbers show, but wasting what will likely be a second for a guy that seems to lack any semblance of starter upside doesn’t feel like a wise investment.

    O’Connell: Maybe you take him in the sixth — no real upside but he seems like he could turn into a guy that won’t embarrass you if pressed into action.

    My issue with a guy like O’Connell is you probably still need to sign a vet backup like Peterman for next year just to have in the room. That doesn’t seem to make sense at this point.
     
  13. Vinegar Strokes

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    that’s a made up quote in the article?
     
  14. ~ taylor ~

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    I think anyone who considers themselves a potential starter wouldn't be interested in sitting behind Goff if they have any options. Are the Jets gonna cut Wilson?
     
  15. MG2

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    Mariota seems like the ideal back-up if you're going to pay for one based on skill set, except he quit on Atlanta last year when they decided they wanted to give Ridder a shot. I don't know everything that happened there, but it was pretty public and I don't see that as something this regime is going to want to bring in at any position, but particularly at QB.
     
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  16. Whammy Business

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    I don't imagine so. That would result in $20M in dead money. He'll be Rodgers' backup.
     
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  17. DeToxRox

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    At a certain point these guys will look for the best deal, but that goes back to how likely are we to invest heavily in purely a backup QB?

    It’s different if it’s a guy like Richardson or Levis, regardless of how you feel about either guy. They are at least there as the hypothetical future.
     
  18. Constant

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    New CBS mock has us taking Carter at 6, despite Will Anderson being available, and Myles Murphy at 18, despite Witherspoon being available.
     
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    Sounds like a smart mock
     
  20. buckwild

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    "It wasn't so much Carter's great play for UGA last year, as it was his ability to show up completely out of shape for draft workouts and love for drag racing down streets that caused the Lions to fall in love with him and trade up to 3"
     
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  21. Constant

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    3 was a typo. Both were still there at 6
     
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  22. DetroitIrish3

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    “We’ve seen he can hit and after his most recent off the field incident, he can surely run as well. Lions lock”
     
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  23. DeToxRox

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  24. Vinegar Strokes

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    Fuck yeah. Let’s go
     
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  25. DeToxRox

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    I would assume Vaitai is getting cut now, which makes sense with his injury issues. Glasgow should be locked in at RG, but adding to the OL on Day 2 shouldn’t be out of the question.
     
  26. Vinegar Strokes

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    Biggest needs in my opinion.

    • DB
    • DT
    • LB
    • WR
    • Backup QB
    • DE
    • RB
     
  27. DeToxRox

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    I would flip DT and DB. The rest I can’t argue with.
     
  28. DetroitNole

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    Cut vaitai and bring back Chark on a decent deal now he sees he's not getting a huge contract and take another need off board
     
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  29. MG2

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    This has been a good offseason. Wish it would have included David instead of Anzalone.
     
  30. DetroitNole

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    There are a few lb I like we can get in rd 2/3 this draft.
     
  31. Vinegar Strokes

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    Yeah these guys get it.

     
  32. DeToxRox

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    Jalen Carter is going to show up for his introductory press conference and ask each media member if they want to race.
     
  33. ~ taylor ~

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    A better LB than Analzone would have made FA an unqualified success. But I agree that we can find that LB on day 2 and at that point we'd be in pretty good shape at LB with Rodriguez, Analzone, Draft Pick LB and Barnes.
     
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  34. DetroitNole

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    I like Henley, Sanders and Simpson but I wouldn't be shocked if they take Sewell in rd 3, starting to look like he may fall all the way to 3rd
     
  35. Whammy Business

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    How did Rodriguez play last season? He certainly looked the part on Hard Knocks.
     
  36. DetroitNole

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    Started hot, had a pretty rough stretch middle of season and finished off ok. Overall a pretty solid rookie year considering where he was drafted and expectations.
     
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  37. DeToxRox

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    Lock was another guy that made sense as a backup. Minshew is also off the board.
     
  38. MG2

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    I'm glad we didn't do that if it was going to take that kind of cap hit next year.
     
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  39. ~ taylor ~

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    Minshew is a great bridge QB for the Colts while they develop Richardson
     
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  40. DetroitIrish3

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    But only for a few games. He’s good to come in spot duty for a game or two, but he’s too easy to defend against with his overall lack of deep throws

    Would’ve loved him as a backup in a pinch
     
  41. ~ taylor ~

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    He'll definitely make sure they don't win too much.
     
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  42. buckwild

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    Don't know if this is true, but it's good GMing if so ....

     
  43. Randy Bobandy

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    Awesome. It appears we’ve filled most of the holes on the roster with reasonable deals and wont have to reach in the draft. Smart imo
     
  44. DeToxRox

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    Backups getting some good deals this off-season.

    At this point I expect we end up with Mason Rudolph.
     
  45. DetroitNole

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    I wouldn't be shocked if we take Hooker in the mid rounds. Funny enough today I learned Gardner Minshew is only one year older than Hooker
     
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  46. Vinegar Strokes

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    Levis or Richardson will be our backup
     
  47. Vinegar Strokes

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    I would still draft the Michigan kicker in the 3rd round. He can win you games kicking 55+ yarders. Badley can’t do that
     
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  48. DeToxRox

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    I wouldn’t be shocked if we still at least brought in a rookie to compete with Badgely.