Alabama Basketball star murdered a woman; Alabama sold their dignity to lose in the Sweet 16

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  1. dblplay1212

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    You left out that any gunfire from Johnson, first or not, was a direct result of an armed Davis literally running up to the driver side vehicle.


    It is at this point that Davis, who had walked off in another direction, can be seen running up behind the Jeep and up to the driver's side window.

    At 1:45 a.m., the first shot was fired.
     
  2. Where Eagles Dare

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    It was also nit fully co conclusive from the guy from patch.com
     
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  4. dblplay1212

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    You've read one article, jumped a bunch of important shit in it, and have concluded that Johnson should be charged with murder all bc you want the Bama guys to be innocent. Shit is gross, man. Sorry maybe I'm just getting old but I don't have it in me to be this much of a homer anymore.
     
  5. RJF-GUMP

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    I'm not going to argue with you about it because I know you will argue until the end of eternity and the whole thing will be a pointless waste of time. We'll have to agree to disagree.
     
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  7. DDB

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    Should’ve gone with the long cat.
     
  8. dblplay1212

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    There's nothing to argue. You know it's true. You like to act like mr insider on the internet but you don't know shit about this other than what you read on patch.com. That one article, and jumping over an armed Davis running up to the vehicle, is enough for you to say that Johnson should be charged with murder. Stop and think about how insane that take it.
     
  9. Drown ‘Em

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    With all due respect, I'm not sure what your questions have to do with what I asked. I asked my question because I actually do understand why a POC wouldn't want to cooperate with the police and why it does not necessarily mean someone is suspect, because I am not ignorant of what has happened and continues to happen in this country to POC, especially to young Black men. But my point in asking it was to see if that same understanding would apply to Miles who may have cooperated to his detriment because his mother had instilled in him he could trust the cops. Isn't it possible that the police had a young Black man who did cooperate and his cooperation was used to his detriment to make their job easier? Its a whole lot easier to do that when you have a dead young mother and want a quick arrest. I want to know why you seem to be only giving that courtesy to Johnson who is the sole provider of evidence that goes towards the murder intent against Davis and Miles and which was not corroborated by another passenger in the vehicle who has testified under oath.
     
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  10. junior5

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    this was literally you when the SI article came out :loldog:
     
  11. dblplay1212

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    All I've ever said was I thought Miller should sit some games while they figure it all out. I've never said I know who should be charged in all of this. Sitting games and being charged are two totally different worlds, even if you can't grasp that.
     
  12. DDB

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    But you’re real quick to defend a poc that is ducking a subpoena and it was his girlfriend that was killed, and quick to put down Miller who cooperated. In what world does that make sense?
     
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  13. RJF-GUMP

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    Cedric Johnson was flashing a gun earlier in the night, talking with Green who has multiple violent felony charges. Green gets out of his car and went to the trunk to get something. Then there's the description of flashes coming from inside the car first. Whether it's conclusive or not will be up to a jury. Johnson can argue that Davis ran up to the car. But does someone running up to your car give you the right to fire a gun at him? At best that's Johnson's argument for self defense. But if this material was presented to a grand jury on charges against Cedric Johnson, seems pretty likely the grand jury would indict Cedric Johnson. But the DA's case falls apart at that point because their entire case is based on Cedric Johnson's statements, some of which have been refuted by other passengers in the vehicle he occupied.
     
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  14. junior5

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    And I respect your opinion. Some of us disagree and it doesn’t mean you’re good and we’re bad
     
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  15. RJF-GUMP

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    Can anyone even prove that Brandon Miller read the text from Miles requesting that Miller bring the gun ? Wasn't Brandon Miller already on the way to pick up Miles and pretty close to Miles when that text was sent? Can anyone prove that Brandon Miller knew there was a gun in his back seat underneath a pile of clothes? If none of that is verifiable, why would Brandon Miller have to sit out games?
     
  16. RJF-GUMP

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    Everyone that disagrees with him is a racist piece of shit that only cares about his team winning and doesn't care if someone was murdered.
     
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  17. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    Brutal. You’re an absolute moron if you don’t think that he knew what he was doing.
     
  18. DDB

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    That’s a bingo
     
  19. RJF-GUMP

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    And your opinion is factually based on what? What evidence/documents/facts do you have to support that conclusion?
     
  20. RJF-GUMP

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    What I do know is he was the designated driver and went to pick up his friends who were drunk .
     
  21. Where Eagles Dare

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    Because none of this was known for like 45 days
     
  22. DDB

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    His biased opinion, the same bias we are told we are standing on.
     
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  23. RJF-GUMP

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    Very likely the university had access to a good bit of this footage way before the public did. Also assuming they didn't , the university should discipline someone without any facts or evidence showing he did anything wrong?
     
  24. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    And was completely unaware of the gun that he was told to bring. Give me a fucking break.
     
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  25. Drown ‘Em

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    I’d like to reiterate that I only speak for myself, and as such also distance myself from comments in this thread that are not specifically mine, if possible.
     
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  26. RJF-GUMP

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    The timeline that has been presented is that Miller was already on the way to pick up Miles when he got that text. Also the text from Miles is gibberish. Regardless, my understanding is Miller was pretty close to Miles when Miles sent the text requesting the gun. If Miles had buried the gun under a bunch of clothes in the back of Miller's car because Miles knew that Miles was going to get patted down going into the club, and Miles didn't say anything to Miller about the gun before going into the club, then Miller would not have known the gun was in Miller's car until like 2 minutes before Miller arrived to pick up Miles. There's also 0 evidence that Miller read the text or knew about the gun prior to the text being sent (if he did read it).
     
  27. Where Eagles Dare

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    You dumbass, they literally said they didn't know about the text massages and other evidence until the preliminary hearing

    It's safe to assume they didn't know shit
     
  28. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    No offense man but your understanding doesn’t mean much.

    We’ll see how it turns out.
     
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  29. RJF-GUMP

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    I don't think you know what you're talking about.
     
  30. RJF-GUMP

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    cool, man.
     
  31. Daniel Ocean

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    I am simply saying that I understand why he is behaving like he is not that all MOC would act like that. I am saying that because he is a MOC he might have reasons to distrust cops and for that reason his behavior imo isn’t sus. There are several reasons why I don’t like to talk to cops and none of them are because I’m guilty of anything. There are some people who don’t feel that way. It’s because of our different life experiences that we feel the way we do. My issue was people assuming something negative because he didn’t want to continue to talk to law enforcement.
     
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    The Alabama AD and Oats literally said they didn't know about the text messages.

    So you think they had deep understanding of everything else, including video the public just is now seeing for the first time....within 72hrs of the shooting?

    Lmao
     
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  33. RJF-GUMP

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    The University definitely had video footage way before the Patch.com article.
     
  34. Where Eagles Dare

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    Then they had video of Miller bring the gun and still played him immediately?
     
  35. RJF-GUMP

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    LOL yes the video shows Brandon Miller walk up to Davis and hand him the gun. He just puts it right in Davis' hand. Talk about dumbasses. They have a video of Brandon Miller pulling up in a vehicle.
     
  36. Corch

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    Lol what planet do you morons live on where you don't know if you have a gun in your car or not?
     
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  37. Drown ‘Em

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    And I get that. I’m just honestly interested if you think that Miles deserves any consideration that his decision to cooperate because he had been taught he could trust the police, as his mom was a cop, could actually be the reason that he has been charged? Had a lawyer been present, again which I could be wrong about there not being one present, they might have stopped him from answering questions in ways that could be used against him. I have no idea if that happened or not. But allegedly Miles’ mom was at the station and kept asking to see him, but the cops kept coming out and telling her there was no need as they kept getting more information from him, telling her initially he was being questioned as a witness before he then became a suspect, and then was eventually arrested without her seeing him.
     
  38. RJF-GUMP

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    A planet where someone puts a gun in your car and doesn't tell you.
     
  39. DDB

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    Cause it’s no longer illegal in the state of Alabama, as long as you’re of age. Permits aren’t required
     
  40. junior5

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    I let my friend borrow my car one time in college and he left his shotgun in the back. I had no idea and got pulled over for speeding. Shit sucked
     
  41. dblplay1212

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    I'm not defending, just saying I'm aware of why a young person of color would do that.

    Are we back to Miller = average young black man? We're doing that again?

    My comments on Miller have nothing to do with cooperating or not. It's the fact he showed up with a gun in his car. I hate guns. Nothing good comes from them. Johnson had a gun as well so he can sit out some games too until the case plays out.
     
  42. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    Very relevant to a gun used in a murder.

    Goshdamn you’re stupid.
     
  43. dblplay1212

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    When that person is armed? Yes, absolutely. This is Alabama we're talking about.
     
  44. junior5

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    was not trying to compare. Relax
     
  45. RJF-GUMP

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    I don't think I saw anything saying Davis ran up with gun in hand. Did I miss where Johnson knew that Davis was armed?
     
  46. dblplay1212

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    If he didn't read the text or didn't know the gun was there, don't you think his attorney would have said that in his press release? He was very specific about thing. I would be surprised if the text was unread or Miller didn't know the gun was there and the attorney didn't bring those up.
     
  47. RJF-GUMP

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    the point is that someone could easily leave a gun in your car and you wouldn't know. It's actually quite dumb to act like that couldn't happen.
     
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  48. RJF-GUMP

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    I don't know why his attorney didn't comment on it. Could be that forensic evaluation of the phone was still ongoing.
     
  49. Napoleon Bonerfart

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    Ya’ll are truly an embarrassment to humanity.
     
  50. dblplay1212

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    Or maybe he read it and he knew the gun was in his car.