Not true they may just be misogynists or lgtbq phobic. I thought this was about marriage. Never mind.
I wasn’t running cover for them. I was making a joke you were missing a few other deplorables. Add a winking emoji at the end of my original post and it should sound more like it did in my head.
No worries, when I reread it I understood the take. Some time brain to typing does not translate well.
I really hope, it should be easy enough to find hundreds of IVF couples in all swing states and run their stories non-stop in ads.
Ron DeSantis pretends he isn't at fault for book ban he signed into law Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 12:58:07p CST Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, thoroughly spanked on the public stage by Donald Trump (and Gov. Gavin Newsom), is back in his home state trying to clean up some of the mess he made. On Thursday, DeSantis and his team released an announcement that he will continue “to debunk the false narrative that the state of Florida bans books,” calling on the state legislature to “make necessary adjustments so that we can prevent abuses in the objection process and ensure that districts aren’t overwhelmed by frivolous challenges.” Unable to admit that HB 1069, which he signed into law in May 2023, has led to Nazi-esque book bans, DeSantis’s announcement instead blamed “people [who] have abused this process in an effort to score cheap political points.” It is a rich sentiment coming from the guy who appointed the co-founder of the far-right Moms for Liberty to the state ethics commission last fall in an attempt to drum up excitement for his flailing presidential campaign. Spoiler The announcement came with a bizarre video uploaded to the right-wing and libertarian-catering Rumble platform. The video claims that any reports from “the media” concerning books like “The Diary of Anne Frank” being banned is false. In fact, it was one of those Moms for Liberty that DeSantis likes so much who got the book banned from her local high school. In an attempt to revise very recent history, DeSantis’ announcement claims, “No district in Florida has removed any dictionaries or thesauruses,” calling that assertion “ridiculous.” They have as recently as last month. DeSantis also forgot to cover how editions of books like “Sleeping Beauty” and Jon J. Muth’s acclaimed series of illustrated children’s books “Zen Shorts” found their way onto his state’s banned book lists. The book bans are just some of the more glaring results of DeSantis and Florida Republicans’ authoritarian, anti-LGBTQ+, anti-education, anti-Black history policies. The Parental Rights in Education Bill along with the Stop Woke Act (the latter led a textbook company to strip out the mention of race in the section about Rosa Parks) are also a part of the culture war policies the Florida governor has overseen. DeSantis’ announcement wasn’t interested in addressing those concerns. ...Florida Republicans tend to really lean into the lying and hypocrisy once their bad and frequently unconstitutional policies are exposed. So in that way, DeSantis is just doing what Republicans in his state have been doing for years: Lying and revising the history of their terrible decision making.
Curious what the people that filed the lawsuit think now. Started out suing the hospital for money and now the entire state is going to be without IVF.
After Ruling, University of Alabama at Birmingham Health System Pauses I.V.F. Procedures The U.A.B. system said it was worried about potential criminal prosecutions after Alabama’s Supreme Court ruled that frozen embryos should be considered children. The University of Alabama at Birmingham health system announced on Wednesday that it was pausing in vitro fertilization treatments as it evaluated the Alabama Supreme Court’s ruling that frozen embryos should be considered children. “We are saddened that this will impact our patients’ attempt to have a baby through I.V.F.,” a statement from the health system said, “but we must evaluate the potential that our patients and our physicians could be prosecuted criminally or face punitive damages for following the standard of care for I.V.F. treatments.” The health system’s Division of Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility will continue performing egg retrievals from women seeking fertility treatment, the statement said, but it will not undertake the next steps in the process — combining the eggs with sperm in a lab for fertilization, and allowing embryos to develop — for now. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/us/university-alabama-birmingham-ivf-embryo-ruling.html
So the person stealing their babies was going to "kill" them, therefore murder charge, or 2. Killed them by accident and charged w manslaughter?
I don't believe the person was stealing them, they wandered into the area and opened the freezer and somehow dropped a few of them, destroying them. I don't believe they were charged with anything, at least that I've seen. My understanding is the couples used the facility from 2012-2016 and leftover embryos were stored until this happened in 2020. From what I gather, they sued to get money from the hospital and now it turned into this. I haven't seen anything about criminal charges against the person, but who knows now.
Smells like one of those cases that just gets taken over by the conservative groups looking for an activist court
Not sure where else to put this but I'm going to blame it on Russia so it goes here. The Elon thread might also be appropriate. Nearly every wireless carrier was down at the same time earlier this morning Down detector shows ATT, Verizon, TMobile all started getting reports at the same time
Probably related to the 27:1 "guest" to user ratio itt. Real talk tho, that might have killed people who couldn't call 911.
It's also calling anyone that did it or had a part in it a baby killer. It's a leopards eating faces example.
Right. It’s not like Alabama is full of rich liberals and it’s a “gotcha” by Republicans to ruin their lives.
Yeah time to take a day off from this thread. Too much anger reading the last couple pages. Also, fuck off Alabama
Right. What they're saying is anyone who had IVF done -- which harvests a bunch of eggs and fertilizes them, most of which aren't used because they aren't viable (or aren't needed) -- is a baby killing murderer if they didn't implant every single egg and attempt to bring it to term. Which is, you know, fucking nuts.
I believe it was decided as a matter of the Alabama state constitution, which will extremely limit if not cut off review by the Supreme Court. Someone would have to figure out a way to argue that the manner in which Alabama defines life violates the federal Constitution; maybe that’s not as hard as I’m thinking it would be.
The consideration here is the domino of dummies as other states look to rule in a similar way and which legal gymnastics they need to arrive at a similar decision. It’s 100% an issue the left should be able to raise big money on.
I posted this on February 2nd. I won, assuming they don’t back out at the paperwork, which I don’t expect them to also not really sure why that was posted itt but we were probably all bitching about employers
idk man, I know a lot of families who have gone into significant debt and nearly bankrupted themselves just to go through IVF. When you are desperate to bring a baby into your family, a lot of folks will make the money work one way or another.
Also clubs of dickhead lawyers who are friends with dickhead judges who make sure to align arguments via previous case groundwork for months/years at a time
I’m just saying they typically try and target low income people instead of the middle and upper classes. I do understand people will go to great lengths for having a baby and I wish them all the luck but the process is pretty pricey.