to me serial killers are some of the most interesting people in the world. just fascinating. albert fish is one that has a crazy story that not everyone knows about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish cliffs: claims to have killed 100 children and eats them. back from the late 1800's/early 1900's.
i did a 15 page paper on them last semester. still a long ways away from knowing a lot about them but some things i found interesting that kind of surprised me -the majority of them have been found to have less grey matter in their brain -they are usually only of average intelligence (i always thought they were generally smarter in school) -most of them have weird relationships in childhood with their mothers. some had promiscuous moms, some actually had sexual relations with their mothers. a lot of them didn't have father figures either
that's interesting. when i think of serial killers i always think of ted bundy or jeffrey dahmer. where did you learn about albert fish from? when i watch tv shows/documentaries about these things (which i watch a lot of) i never see anything on him. i imagine its probably a combination of him being from so long ago and also such a fucked up story that a lot of people would probably have no interest in watching.
Richard Kuklinski Green River Killer BTK (I mean, what brought him out of retirement?) We had a family conversation about this the other day, but we fear that there won't be many more "great/well-known" serial killer incidents moving forward. With the amount of witnesses, surveillance cameras (in and out of buildings), and cell phones to track people, it will be tough for someone to escape detection early on before they can amount a large body count.
I find them fascinating, love watching documentaries and reading books on them. Spoiler Hope this doesn't mean I will become one some day
to touch on your second point, the other reason it is hard is because of the media now and days people love attention. serial killers get attention but they are not known. also, with dna as advanced as it is makes it even harder. isn't that how the green river killer was found? IIRC he got away with it for like 17 years before advances in dna technology led to him being caught. he is another extremely interesting one. He took his like 12 year-old son with him one time to kill one of his hookers. he would also have yard sales where he sold his victims items, and sometimes he would take his victims items (like jewlery) and leave them around at work for people to take.
It was just the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your avatar and the statement that you were interested in serial killers to the point that you wrote a paper about them. Just making sure.
A hooker got away and was able to call for help. From there it took a while to track him down. DNA assured them it was him, but the police officer (who essentially went crazy trying to catch him) was sure it was him when he was caught.
Read about him online while doing research about serial killers. I discovered Fish while learning about Bundy, Dahmer & others. Richard Ramirez & David Berkowitz are good ones too.
lol gotcha. it is something that people joke about sometimes but don't worry im not a weirdo that people would actually be concerned about having a fascination with serial killers. i'm in psychology and i plan on going into forensics in grad school so my paper was based on the childhood development of serial killers fwiw.
Learned about Fish while browsing serial killers on wikipedia one day at work. Pretty sure I've read about him on tmb too at one point. Tmb always has good serial killer threads
that's right. one of the most interesting shows i saw on a serial killer was on him where they showed his court hearing. families of all of the confirmed victims got up at his hearing and spoke. all of them got up and basically yelled at him, called him names, screamed, cried etc. he sat there stone-faced the entire time showing no signs of any emotion at all. the last person got up (a father of a victim) got up and said he doesn't hate him, he forgives him because God says that's what to do, etc. ridgeway then cried while listening to him. (just after the 2:00 minute mark) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmOUAdLgN1A
probably saw it in Emma 's thread. i had never heard of him until then. emma's thread was related to interesting wiki pages iirc but i had no idea what to search for to find it and thought serial killers would have enough interesting discussion to have a separate thread about.
I aint calling you out, dawg. We cool. I agree these threads are always good. I also remember princess kit's "rank top 5 serial killers" or something like that, which might have even been on the rb.
don't they think he's dead? i don't know a lot about him. but hasn't only like one of his letters been decoded by some couple that was obsessed with trying to decipher it?
99.9% certain there is already a thread on this that is multiple pages. Remember clicking on that Albert Fish wiki page in that thread edit: nvm emma's thread was wiki pages in general. carry on
yep. he was nuts. again i have trouble remembering small details sometimes but i think he was so confident he would never get caught that he even had an fbi agent or cop (they already had suspicions he was the killer) over to his house when they noticed how fucking terrible it smelled in his house.
Used to watch Cold Case Files (such a good fucking show) all the time in grad school because I didn't have cable and it was always on broadcast channels. Usually late at night while studying . If you know the format of the show they would go over crimes and then discuss how the person was caught years later due to forensic evidence. Well one day I was watching one about this prolific serial rapist/murder and it just ends with him never being caught at all (not the zodiac either, someone else). He'd raped/killed like 60/70 people and left messages on their answering machines after to scare them. They played one on the show and it was sadistic as fuck. Me =
No, Ness caught Al Capone. Fun fact: the street where his house was had to be renamed in Chicago so that it wouldn't attract much attention. It was also torn down and a new structure built because no one would buy it (for good reason).
Are you ready to see a bunch of disgusting stuff and the smell of dead bodies? Also which came first your love of Dexter or desire to get into forensics?
Can you imagine occupying that new structure? Jesus I would be shitting myself any time I was alone for more than five minutes.
It was the cleveland Torso Murderer. He taunted Ness until he died. Interesting read if you have the time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Torso_Murderer
Saw something like that where the cops knew the guy was guilty, but couldn't find the body. Because they were unable to tie records together electronically, they didn't know he owned a trailer park property in AZ (was from CA). He took the chick and her car to AZ, rented a backhoe, and buried the car and the girl's body behind the trailer. Cops found out about the trailer by accident (I think it was while interviewing a neighbor). Checked it out, found out from another neighbor that he had rented the backhoe under the auspices of gas or electric repair, then used sonar to find something was buried. He fucking buried a goddamn car. Amazing.
http://listverse.com/2012/12/29/10-american-female-serial-killers/ http://listverse.com/2012/09/04/top-10-serial-killer-quotes/ http://listverse.com/2011/08/26/top-10-prolific-serial-killers/ http://listverse.com/2007/08/22/top-10-evil-serial-killers/ http://listverse.com/2009/01/15/10-lesser-known-serial-killers/
never would have guessed this guy would be a murderer. one time while he was at dinner with cops that were surveillancing him, he said something like "you know clowns can get away with murder."
I don't have time to read it, but for something called the "Cleveland Torso Murderer" I will make time.